ABN, CBN, Borazon, Grinding Wheels

[blsnelling]

Can someone define the differences and similiarities in these specialty grinding wheels? What are their advantages/disadvantages? I need a new 3/16" wheel for my Tecomec and an shopping wheels.

While we're at it, how about Oregon and Molemab traditional grinding wheels? What's better?

 

[blsnelling]

So you expect me to use the search button or what?:greenchainsaw:

 

[brncreeper]

Lake would normally be all over a question like this, maybe Grande dog will chime in. I have the CBN from Bailey's. They're spendy but really hold there shape and do a nice job.

 

[blsnelling]

Yeah, Andy uses the Cyclone wheel from Baileys and likes them. Are they any different than these? LINK

 

[BlackCatBone]

I've heard nothing but good things about the cyclone wheels. No dust and no dressing makes them very interesting to me.

I actually almost bought one from Bailey's but then I noticed that the 3/16" was more $$ than the others, and honestly that pissed me off enough to decide against getting one. What's the justification/excuse for that?

 

[blsnelling]

These other CBN wheels are only $133. There's not even a good picture of it though. Is the Cyclone wheel that much better or different?

 

[BlackCatBone]

These other CBN wheels are only $133. There's not even a good picture of it though. Is the Cyclone wheel that much better or different?

I hit your link and it's to a long thread on the subject, but I didn't see the wheel you're mentioning. Was it the foley wheel?

I think the benefit of the cyclone wheel is the split surfaces, which offer more cooling.

 

[FATGUY]

Not to hijack your thread Brad, but what alloy are saw chains cutters or at least what is the hardness?

 

[blsnelling]

I hit your link and it's to a long thread on the subject, but I didn't see the wheel you're mentioning. Was it the foley wheel?

Yes.

3700674

60 Grit Works on Speed Sharp,Jolly, EFco,Oregon grinders
In-Stock
CBN WHL PLATED 5-3/4 X 3/16 7/8A only $133.20

 

[lawnmowertech37]

These other CBN wheels are only $133. There's not even a good picture of it though. Is the Cyclone wheel that much better or different?

brad when i saw this thread i was wondering cause i know what CBN stands for located in va

 

[Grande Dog]

Howdy,
The CBN wheels are a metal wheel with a ring of CBN bonded to the outside circumference. They need to be flipped, shaped, and cleaned as you use them.

The ABN wheels are metal also but, the ABN material is more like a thinner electro-plating.
Since their inception, ABN sales have dwarfed the CBN sales.

With both of these wheels, I think you would have to run a sharpening service to make them pay off.

I think the ABN's are worth their weight when you have chains that need a lot of material removed at once. They'll do it without heating the tooth.

The Oregon/Molemab wheels are good if you're custom shaping the wheels to get a specific type of grind.
Regards
Gregg

 

[blsnelling]

I was hoping you'd pop in here and clear this up for me Gregg Thanks!

 

[showrguy]

Howdy,
The CBN wheels are a metal wheel with a ring of CBN bonded to the outside circumference. They need to be flipped, shaped, and cleaned as you use them.

The ABN wheels are metal also but, the ABN material is more like a thinner electro-plating.
Since their inception, ABN sales have dwarfed the CBN sales.

With both of these wheels, I think you would have to run a sharpening service to make them pay off.

I think the ABN's are worth their weight when you have chains that need a lot of material removed at once. They'll do it without heating the tooth.

The Oregon/Molemab wheels are good if you're custom shaping the wheels to get a specific type of grind.
Regards
Gregg

Gregg,
i think you should send brad 1 of each so he can do an accurate comparison of each individual wheel !!!!!!!!!
then he can send me 1 or 2 after testing is completed.....hehehe

 

[blsnelling]

Gregg,
i think you should send brad 1 of each so he can do an accurate comparison of each individual wheel !!!!!!!!!
then he can send me 1 or 2 after testing is completed.....hehehe

You don't ask for much do you!!! And Gregg, I did not pay him to say that, lol. ShowrGuy, I'm sure you want the ABN wheel, right?

 

[showrguy]

Brad,
just trying to help out where i can..LOL
naw, it'd be nice to try one of those fancy wheels but it would'nt work on my stihl USG grinder anyway (unless i had a bushing turned for it)....
it'd be funny if you received a box of wheels in the mail though ???
don't forget about meeeeeeeeeeeeee.......

 

[blsnelling]

...it'd be funny if you received a box of wheels in the mail though ???

Stranger things have happened!

 

[breymeyerfam]

I sure would love to have one of those abn cyclone wheels, but grinding for myself and a few others, it would take alot of grinding to use up the comparable $ amount of standard wheels.

also, I found that wax is the way to go! Much longer wheel life.

 

[blsnelling]

I found that wax is the way to go! Much longer wheel life.

I'm using Kool-Grind from Baileys.

 

[Griffbm3]

Breyerfarm, you are soo right. That KoolGrind wax has made all the difference for me.

I tried some new angles and shapes today on some of the Oregon wheels that I have. I sharpened 8 RSC 3/8 chains, I still think 60/30/10 or even 60/30/0 works the best. Haven't tried those ABN/CBN wheels yet, but I have been getting a lot of requests for sharpening, so maybe???

Jason

 

[blsnelling]

That would definately be "cool" (literally) to take a totally rocked out chain and whip through that bad boy like one you're just freshening up!