ABN Cyclone wheels

[McCartman]

What's the poop on these pricy grinding wheels that Baileys have listed? Anyone here using them?

What sort of material are they coated with that does the actual grinding? Diamond? What is the expected lifespan?

I like the idea of a wheel that runs cool and doesn't clog. Not having to shape them sounds like fun too. But the cost!

I run an Oregon 511 and sharpen a few chains here and there for neighbors besides my own chains. I guess if I spring for one of these, I want it to outlast the grinder, me, and all the trees on the planet....

 

[bwalker]

I think Lakeside just got one and really likes it. Maybe he will chime in?

 

[Xtra]

I use these on my Maxx grinder.
They cut very quick and really run cool, even when taking large bites.
Very pricey.

You must use fairly clean chains

They seem to hold up well. I've sharpened close to 100 20" & 28" loops with it so far.

(the Maxx is a nice grinder but I've been thinking about moving to a Silvey 510)

 

[zemmo]

I use these on my Maxx grinder.
They cut very quick and really run cool, even when taking large bites.
Very pricey.

You must use fairly clean chains

They seem to hold up well. I've sharpened close to 100 20" & 28" loops with it so far.

(the Maxx is a nice grinder but I've been thinking about moving to a Silvey 510)

Any update on these wheels? Do they even work on the Silvey 510?

 

[Xtra]

No the 510 takes an 8" wheel.

 

[Jim Shockey]

I use these on my Maxx grinder.
They cut very quick and really run cool, even when taking large bites.
Very pricey.

You must use fairly clean chains

They seem to hold up well. I've sharpened close to 100 20" & 28" loops with it so far.

(the Maxx is a nice grinder but I've been thinking about moving to a Silvey 510)

I just got a Maxx grinder and was wondering if it has the same problems as the Northern grinders. Any tips or help setting it up and using would be very helpful. Thank you, Jim

 

[B_Turner]

I have a 510 and like it okay. Still not the perfect machine, but seems to hold the tooth in place better than the others I've seen (not tried them all, though).

If you get one I have two suggestions:

1) If you buy it in person, really look at the pawls that the press against the back of the cutter when sharpening. There are two of them, one for left, one for right cutters. Mine are not exactly the same, left to right. Annoys me but I can adjust for it.

I was at a large dealer of grinders and I mentioned this so we looked through a box of replacement Silvey pawls pairs (only come in pairs, it seems). Thought I'd buy some new ones. THey cost like 65 bucks and most of the ones in the box were worse than mine. The main offender is the length of the pawl which if too long stops the tooth from coming back all the way into the notch. So take a quick look at those before you pick one out. If the issue is simply the tip is too long that can be easily file back, but if the notch is different left to right it is a pain.

2) I've been a lot happier with the performance of the 510 once I figured out I could get rid of the resenoid wheels that come with it. I currently use the blue ceramic stone, and it cuts much faster and cooler than the one that comes with.

On another note, be advised that when you buy wheels from Baileys or Madsens they are often not of the same quality as the wheels Silvey puts on the grinders, although they are much cheaper. I figured this out the hard way with a bunch of wheels I can't use, and have for now settled on the blue ceramic wheels for both my 510 and ProSharp.

 

[stihl025]

Do those blue ceramic wheels come in different sizes and where can you purchase them?

 

[B_Turner]

Do those blue ceramic wheels come in different sizes and where can you purchase them?

I have only seen them in chainsaw places in the standard 8 inch with 1 inch hole. Bought mine at Madsens. The quality of the blue ones I purchased has all been good, but the other ones, especially the gray ones were really bad. I called Madsensand they said they varied batch to batch. Mine were crumbly and the holes were oversized and ragged. White ones were a somewhat better quality but for a comparison the salmon wheels that came with my prosharp were top quality and work well. Blue ones cut faster and cooler, though, so that is what I am using for now.

I know other sizes of ceramic wheels exist, but finding a retail source is tough. Pacific Grinding wheel makes some of the wheels dealers sell for Silvey grinders. I went to their site once and got overwhelmed trying to determine what range of wheels and sizes might be available that I would be interested in.