adjustable loop runner?

[Climber2]

Do they make anything you can just clip onto a loop runner for adjustment? This doesn't seem like it would be hard to make. With so many uses for one I can't believe they can't make one adjustable.

Mike

 

[BigJohn]

Yeah its called a loopie made from a little different type of matrerial called Tenex or Yalex.

 

[Climber2]

I suppose so. I wasn't thinking of smaller diameter line. When I think of loopies I think of 5/8 or 3/4 I guess you could make one any diameter.

Mike

 

[BigJohn]

Yeah one made from 3/8 is really great I don't know why I don't have any. Probably because if I wanted some I would have to buy it or make it. Getting Tenex around here means I have to wait for a rain day and I usually forget about buying toys. If I worked form myself I would have a bunch. I do have one for cableing for the come a long I made that is great.

 

[NickfromWI]

I have a quarter-inch whoopie that I use for a retrievable redirect. There is a snap-shackle on one side and a carabiner on the other. It works nice and the small size makes it compact.

Mike Maas, you'd love this setup!


I also have a 5'4" whoopie....but none of you guys can use that!

love
nick

 

[SilverBlue]

Post a pic of that 1/4 inch one Nick

 

[Climber2]

What is the tensile strength of 1/4 in and where is the best place to buy?

Mike

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

https://ssl2.adhost.com/seamar/search.cfm?category=name&searchterm=tenex+&step=2

This is the best place I've found for Tenex.

Nick likes Yalex better though.

My link to Tenex tensil does not work anymore.

 

[rbtree]

My link to Tenex tensil does not work anymore. [/B]

http://www.samsonrope.com/home/commercial-marine/12s 12strand tenex.cfm?ProdNum=172

Uh oh, Nick's makin' whoopie again!!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Only on the weekends though.

Hey any tree companies in the Baltimore area, Nick might take a job if you can lure him away from the Chisholm family operation

 

[NickfromWI]

Originally posted by SilverBlue
Post a pic of that 1/4 inch one Nick

Here ya go!

When I am at the base of a tree where I think I might want the retrievable redirect, I'll clip this to my saddle...

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

So when Are you going to doit with 2mm zing-it?

 

[NickfromWI]

Here's what it looks like all laid out.

I think the 1/4" yalex is around 2,000lbs.

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

It'd look something like then when wrapped around a tree.

I don't know if it's clear in the picture...you throw the whoopie around a limb, clip the snap shackle to the 'biner. Hang the throwline down (the weight of the stuff sack keeps it hanging sorta straight...put a spare 'biner in there on windy day). Clip both sides of your climbing line to the biner (if I'm feeling shnazzy I'll hand to little cmi pullies to the biner and run the lines through that) then lower yourself.

When your ready to retrieve, pull on the throwline. It'll open the snap shackle. The carabiner should slide down your line. You might need to tug the throwline if the sling gets caught up on a twig or something like that.

After playing around with it on my own time, I've used it a couple times at work. Now that the kinks are worked out, it hasn't got caught yet!

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

Originally posted by John Paul Sanborn
So when Are you going to doit with 2mm zing-it?

My cojones aren't quite big enough for that yet!

That would be the ultimate in ultra-light! Put a titanium snap on there, make the stuff sack out of thin rip-stop nylon...I'd be set!

love
nick


ps- I didn't make up the idea for this thing...I saw it on someone's website. It looked good, so I thought I'd make one!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

HSP Dyneema twine 2.5mm has 800# tensile.

Our mutual freind in Madison says that there is a zing-it like product bigger then the 2.2 (670#)on the market right now....

I remember Tony Sakett footlocking on Slickline.....

 

[NickfromWI]

I rapped on zing-it once. It was a whopping thirty feet. I had someone belaying me below with a seperate climbing line (belay kept super loose...just there just in case). I just took a bunch of wraps around the spine of a 'biner (i don't remember...maybe 9 wraps...it was last summer). It worked fine.

It would have to be life-or-death to get me to do that with no backup!

love
nick

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by NickfromWI
I rapped on zing-it once. It was a whopping thirty feet. I had someone belaying me below with a seperate climbing line (belay kept super loose...just there just in case). I just took a bunch of wraps around the spine of a 'biner (i don't remember...maybe 9 wraps...it was last summer). It worked fine.

It would have to be life-or-death to get me to do that with no backup!

love
nick

I have been considering posting that very scenerio, life or death, would you repel soley on zing-it? If it were new?

 

[NickfromWI]

The one I rapped off was very NOT new. As a matter of fact, only a month or two before, JPS broke it just by pulling on it (it was caught on a little nub in a Honey Locust. I tried and it wouldn't go...JP thought he could break the little twig it was caught on...The rope broke instead!

But yet, two months later, it held me. It was about 5 months old and heavily used.

I need a good rap device for something that little!

love
nick

 

[dbeck]

slow order

Originally posted by John Paul Sanborn
https://ssl2.adhost.com/seamar/search.cfm?category=name&searchterm=tenex+&step=2

This is the best place I've found for Tenex.

Nick likes Yalex better though.

My link to Tenex tensil does not work anymore.

FYI, if anyone ordered anything fromJPS link to seattle marine, the colors will take awhile. Salesman said they stock clear, but colors have to be ordered, then they will stock them. He was quite surprised at our orders, the diff colors and such.
Thanks to JPS for the link!