Aerial lift specialist??? WHY??

[treevet]

dave ihave heard of other very holders being grandfathered in

European technician certification holders are qualified as bcma but no others I know of

Like you I don't get the whole concept of grandfathering
Why can't all take the same test if the other cert is equivalent then just prove it!!

At least they have to earn to keep it Guy.

 

[ropensaddle]

I agree. It is a recognized organization that alot of high end clients respect. I learned things through being affiliated with them that I may not have otherwise. I will say I am tired of hearing about the conferences that I am never able to attend. I don't care who got promoted to what job , spend the money on training and teaching people how to maintain equipment and stop putting feathers in each others hats.

:agree2: Like credits listed in books I understand it is honoring someone
but do I give a flying :censored: if Joe Bob made president heck no it
is easy to see why all the costs.

 

[treeseer]

...the ISA is a valuable organisation, but it is increasingly difficult to justify the cost of membership; IMHO.

I felt that way too until I got more involved in volunteering and committee work; now i get a lot more out of it and the dues and cert checks are easier to write because i see more of what is done that helps our work. :help:

re conference programs you will see more programming devoted to training in Providence. I agree the awards stuff takes time; it has been trimmed down but it could be trimmed even more imo.

 

[TreeTopKid]

I agree. It is a recognized organization that alot of high end clients respect. I learned things through being affiliated with them that I may not have otherwise. I will say I am tired of hearing about the conferences that I am never able to attend. I don't care who got promoted to what job , spend the money on training and teaching people how to maintain equipment and stop putting feathers in each others hats.

The conference's are a largely to with continuing education, and IMO a great learning resource that keep you informed with 'up to the minute information.

I have never noticed them to be based around mutual admiration.

 

[(WLL)]

whats next?

isa certified rake specialist's /masters. its all about :censored: money

 

[TreeTopKid]

isa certified rake specialist's /masters. its all about :censored: money

I got my rake cert!

 

[Bermie]

ISA's behind the times,...the UK has had the Certificate of Competence in Mobile Elevated Work Platforms (MEWP) for years already.
You get to take the assessment and have your cert endorsed on the specific type of equipment that you use all the time. The assessment is verbal and practical, NO multiple choice questions! Can you operate it and do you have sufficient underpinning knowledge to prove you understand the basic ins and outs of your equipment. Risk assessment and safety features are an integral part of it all.

There is also a cert. in the use of a chainsaw from a MEWP as well.

If you want to compare check out the assessment criteria at

http://www.nptc.org.uk/assessment-schedules/

Under plant machinery is MEWP assessment and under chainsaw and related operations is chainsaw use from a MEWP.

The assessors have to have a minimum of 5 years experience, hold the qualification themselves, undergo a technical evaluation by a verifier who is even more experienced, then do a course in assessment technique, and be observed carrying out two assessments BEFORE being accepted as an assessor. Then every two years assessors must be verified by being observed carrying out an assesment to ensure they are still applying the correct standards and assessment technique. They also have to attend periodic standard setting and technical update events to stay current.

 

[B-Edwards]

The conference's are a largely to with continuing education, and IMO a great learning resource that keep you informed with 'up to the minute information.

I have never noticed them to be based around mutual admiration.

Ah, I guess I could be overreacting Little. I really think the magazine could be geared more to teaching or showing better ideas than always promoting another conference. All in all I am glad I got certified. I'm not sure if I ever told you guys how many hot chicks become available after becoming certified.

 

[TreeTopKid]

ISA's behind the times,...the UK has had the Certificate of Competence in Mobile Elevated Work Platforms (MEWP) for years already.
You get to take the assessment and have your cert endorsed on the specific type of equipment that you use all the time. The assessment is verbal and practical, NO multiple choice questions! Can you operate it and do you have sufficient underpinning knowledge to prove you understand the basic ins and outs of your equipment. Risk assessment and safety features are an integral part of it all.

There is also a cert. in the use of a chainsaw from a MEWP as well.

If you want to compare check out the assessment criteria at

http://www.nptc.org.uk/assessment-schedules/

Under plant machinery is MEWP assessment and under chainsaw and related operations is chainsaw use from a MEWP.

The assessors have to have a minimum of 5 years experience, hold the qualification themselves, undergo a technical evaluation by a verifier who is even more experienced, then do a course in assessment technique, and be observed carrying out two assessments BEFORE being accepted as an assessor. Then every two years assessors must be verified by being observed carrying out an assesment to ensure they are still applying the correct standards and assessment technique. They also have to attend periodic standard setting and technical update events to stay current.

It's right that there are strict standards in the UK although much of the the certification laws in the UK pertaining to the aboricultural industry/construction were to fall in line with European law. The road traffic and driving licensing laws also changed to fall in line with the European Union. The European 'super state' is one of the reasons I left the UK.

The cost of public liability insurance alone increased by 600% for my company during this six year transitional period. The Uk was in better shape before it joined the EU IMHO. Assessors being evaluated is nothing new. A friend of mine was an NPTC assessor at The Royal Agricultural college, and he was assessed on a yearly basis way before European bureaucracy ran amok.

 

[Bermie]

It's right that there are strict standards in the UK although much of the the certification laws in the UK pertaining to the aboricultural industry/construction were to fall in line with European law. The road traffic and driving licensing laws also changed to fall in line with the European Union. The European 'super state' is one of the reasons I left the UK.

The cost of public liability insurance alone increased by 600% for my company during this six year transitional period. The Uk was in better shape before it joined the EU IMHO. Assessors being evaluated is nothing new. A friend of mine was an NPTC assessor at The Royal Agricultural college, and he was assessed on a yearly basis way before European bureaucracy ran amok.

Yeah, I trained there (UK)!
I'm an nptc assessor too, but overseas.
I like the fact of UK national certification and the checks and balances of the assessment system, but I don't envy you the 'nanny state' or the constant adjustments to stay in compliance with the EU.
At least here we get to pick and choose which qualifications we think will work here and so far NPTC works best when applied within our non-existent safety framework. Its all self regulated at the moment, but pesticides will be the first to come under government regulation, a licencing and application act was just passed before Christmas.

 

[TreeTopKid]

Yeah, I trained there (UK)!
I'm an nptc assessor too, but overseas.
I like the fact of UK national certification and the checks and balances of the assessment system, but I don't envy you the 'nanny state' or the constant adjustments to stay in compliance with the EU.
At least here we get to pick and choose which qualifications we think will work here and so far NPTC works best when applied within our non-existent safety framework. Its all self regulated at the moment, but pesticides will be the first to come under government regulation, a licencing and application act was just passed before Christmas.

Actually Bermie I live in Texas now. It wasn't a genuine bale out I actually married an American lady from Chicago but refused to live somewhere colder than England, hence Texas.

The pesticide licensing is all good (especially if they are spraying near your own home).Right here in Texas I see people spraying that don't even look like they have a vehicle inspection sticker never mind a pesticides license!

NPTC is a very thorough training program that recognizes each individual area of training very precisely. The stuff that I was taught out in the woods has never been forgotten. It is also in fact the reason that I didn't take the ISA climber specialist cert when I got to the United States. I do think the ISA re-certification process is a winner though. It just encourages people to stay constantly advised of whats changing in the business, and keeps everything that is important fresh in your mind.

Health & safety Issues in the UK for example are so exhaustive that they become an issue in themselves. For example it was compulsory to wear Class A (or was it C it's been a while!) chainsaw trousers, and Class A (or C?) boots whilst climbing a tree. Now I fully understand the benefits of wearing this PPE but on occasions, when it is too hot, or the boots were too cumbersome for a particular climbing job I feel common sense should be allowed to prevail. I might add that in 25yrs I have cut neither my legs or my feet, and that's largely been due to an awareness of a 90mph chain and not my personal protective equipment.

Although I'm a believer in PPE I enjoy the fact that here in Texas I'm trusted, and given enough freedom to make an advised adult decision with regards to MY personal safety.

This has gotten away from the original thread. I apologize!

 

[Ameriquip]

Ameriquip

Our new E40H, is an extremely reliable 40 foot working height machine with hydraulic outriggers. Cost of doing business with it should be much less than anything else on the market. We are also coming out with the E50H 50 foot working height later this month.


Thanks
Angus Davis

Ameriquip
http://www.AmeriquipEagle.com

 

[woodchux]

Our new E40H, is an extremely reliable 40 foot working height machine with hydraulic outriggers. Cost of doing business with it should be much less than anything else on the market. We are also coming out with the E50H 50 foot working height later this month.


Thanks
Angus Davis

Ameriquip
http://www.AmeriquipEagle.com

What is the price range on the 50 foot machine? thanks

 

[Ameriquip]

Price range on the E50H

We havent come up with the final pricing. Should be able to get it for you later this week. I anticipate with options from the upper 20s to the highest in the low to mid 30s with quite a few options. We have also started working on the E60H.

 

[woodchux]

We havent come up with the final pricing. Should be able to get it for you later this week. I anticipate with options from the upper 20s to the highest in the low to mid 30s with quite a few options. We have also started working on the E60H.

When do you expect the 60 foot models to be available? I am interested in a 50 or 60 foot unit. What type of upper controls do these units use?

 

[B-Edwards]

I just got my "Hot Chick " certification! You guys are missing out!!!!:rockn:

 

[Ameriquip]

60 foot Ameriquip

The E60H Ameriquip might be a while, we have been working on it, but it took us 3 years to come out with the improved E40H. You know how it is , you get one chance to make a first impression. You guys on this site would tear me a new one if we put out something that wasnt right. The 1st E 40 H new style we built we rented for over a year prior to selling it.

Angus