Alittle Stihl vacation

[Lakeside53]

What's up Manual? Someone say your baby is slow and ugly?

I'm bettng the 441 has about as much time on it as the 372opcorn:

 

[manual]

Hmmmmmm,
Are you sure your not to busy to want to hear about it there Bin Ultra.

No thearpy yet, ehh?

Nope,,It would be nice if Bin Ultra would speak for himself.

 

[manual]

I'm bettng the 441 has about as much time on it as the 372opcorn:

LOL, I'm not betting on that

 

[manual]

What's up Manual? Someone say your baby is slow and ugly?

Hey, now I can take it.

I'm going to have a hard time explaining what you said to my baby.

 

[THALL10326]

I thought I WAS being fair?!! I'm a dealer-only guy...trust me.

I'm just "gettin' in Tom's crawl," that's all.

hahaha, your getting in my crawl, hahaha, no way. I love this kind of playing around.

So its 3 free chains as well, durn its a shame they have to toss all that in to sell those saws but after seeing how they are put together I fully understand,LOLOLOL, gotcha

Now in all seriousness I got no issues with that 372 at all. It cuts good, runs good, handles good so I'm not complaining about it at all. Me saying the 441 is better built is simply true. Anyone could look at them and see which one stands out. Fit and finnish, there is no comparison. Price wise I paid less for my 441 than I did that 372 so don't think I'm really worried about prices cause I'm not. Where I come from if you want something you buy it, price shouldn't be the only factor. For those where price is the only factor I say knock yourselves out, get it wherever you can but when it breaks don't come crying to me. I'm glad your smart enuff to be a dealer only guy Woodie, many go for price only and find themselves left out in the cold when they need service and all saws at some point will need some sort of service down the road.

 

[manual]

OK Champ lets break this down

hahaha, your getting in my crawl, hahaha, no way. I love this kind of playing around.

Yes We Do.

So its 3 free chains as well, durn its a shame they have to toss all that in to sell those saws but after seeing how they are put together I fully understand,LOLOLOL, gotcha

I thought you were posting pictures of the Stihl factory.

Now in all seriousness

OK

I got no issues with that 372 at all. It cuts good, runs good, handles good so I'm not complaining about it at all. Me saying the 441 is better built is simply true. Anyone could look at them and see which one stands out. Fit and finnish, there is no comparison. Price wise I paid less for my 441 than I did that 372 so don't think I'm really worried about prices cause I'm not. Where I come from if you want something you buy it, price shouldn't be the only factor. For those where price is the only factor I say knock yourselves out, get it wherever you can but when it breaks don't come crying to me.

Tom,Tom Tom.
I know you paid dealer price for that 441.

I'm glad your smart enuff to be a dealer only guy Woodie, many go for price only and find themselves left out in the cold when they need service and all saws at some point will need some sort of service down the road.

OH, please tell us where you bought your 372xp?

 

[THALL10326]

Thats what I thought,
Also, Lets see the 372 is new out of the box and how old is that 441
oh thats right almost a year and broke in.

Manual that 441 has yet to be fully broke in and true the 372 is new. The 441 cut just as fast out the box as it does right now far as I can tell. Should the 372 pick up steam as it breaks in thats fine with me because both of those saws cut so close its not worth talking about.

Now about those times. First off I didn't time the saws, someone else did. Secondly as I said , far as I'm concerned they are equal. A half second one way or the other sure doesn't matter in the woods.

Now here is what I've always found interesting about these stopwatch times. In Nascar, drag racing or any sport where time is the main factor stop watches aren't used and for good reason. It takes a split second reaction for the hand to do what the eye see's. It may be a hundred of a second but where it really counts you can't have that. Thats why timing with a stopwatch with machines sawing within a hundred of a second is bogus altogether. In car racing they use a lazer beam the car has to break to get the correct time, not a hand to eye reaction stopwatch. Stopwatches are a good indicator but its not the most accurate. So far as I'm concerned when a saw cuts say 9.99 and and another saw cuts 9.89 using a stopwatch it means nothing at all.

 

[THALL10326]

Yes We Do.


I thought you were posting pictures of the Stihl factory.


OK

Tom,Tom Tom.
I know you paid dealer price for that 441.



OH, please tell us where you bought your 372xp?

Manual you know as well as me when the boys from the "other" side of town come in a Stihl thread things will go astray. I don't mind it all. Hell I kinda like the back and forth. Its fun to agervate each other and you love it too, don't lie,LOL

 

[manual]

Manual that 441 has yet to be fully broke in and true the 372 is new. The 441 cut just as fast out the box as it does right now far as I can tell. Should the 372 pick up steam as it breaks in thats fine with me because both of those saws cut so close its not worth talking about.

Now about those times. First off I didn't time the saws, someone else did. Secondly as I said , far as I'm concerned they are equal. A half second one way or the other sure doesn't matter in the woods.

Now here is what I've always found interesting about these stopwatch times. In Nascar, drag racing or any sport where time is the main factor stop watches aren't used and for good reason. It takes a split second reaction for the hand to do what the eye see's. It may be a hundred of a second but where it really counts you can't have that. Thats why timing with a stopwatch with machines sawing within a hundred of a second is bogus altogether. In car racing they use a lazer beam the car has to break to get the correct time, not a hand to eye reaction stopwatch. Stopwatches are a good indicator but its not the most accurate. So far as I'm concerned when a saw cuts say 9.99 and and another saw cuts 9.89 using a stopwatch it means nothing at all.

That explains why you did not want to cause any trouble and post the times.
but someone else did.

 

[Cut4fun]

Dont forget the free hat and shirt too.

Cropped the dealer info out.

 

[manual]

Manual you know as well as me when the boys from the "other" side of town come in a Stihl thread things will go astray. I don't mind it all. Hell I kinda like the back and forth. Its fun to agervate each other and you love it too, don't lie,LOL

Yes it's all fun and games untill someone gets there eye poked out.

I look at it this way;
If your going to dish it out, Ya better be able to take it. LOL

 

[THALL10326]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I forgot, where did I buy the 372. Glad you brought that up. I was intending on buying it from a bonified Husky dealer on this site. He can attest I e-mailed him about getting one. To my surprise he didn't have any and couldn't get any at the time and you can ask him why, he wasn't too thrilled about it.

So after a few months after I thought the 372 was disappearing for good and I wanted one before they were gone. There is no place around here to buy one, I couldn't get one from a bonified dealer so I did what everyone else does, I had no choice but go Baileys. Its not my cup of tea but when your stuck with it what else can ya do. I blame Husky for this non-sense of being stuck with mail order because they slight their own dealers..

 

[Cut4fun]

Mentioning lasers for timing. I heard there is a show down south that sets it wood up with a laser on the top and bottom. Timing starts when laser is broke at top first time down and stops after laser is broke on 2 cut down through at bottom.

 

[manual]

Dont forget the free hat and shirt too.


Free hat and tee shirt !!!!!!!!!!
That is a deal. Heck I can't even buy a hat from the husky dealer.

 

[SawTroll]

Manual that 441 has yet to be fully broke in and true the 372 is new. The 441 cut just as fast out the box as it does right now far as I can tell. Should the 372 pick up steam as it breaks in thats fine with me because both of those saws cut so close its not worth talking about.

Now about those times. First off I didn't time the saws, someone else did. Secondly as I said , far as I'm concerned they are equal. A half second one way or the other sure doesn't matter in the woods.

Now here is what I've always found interesting about these stopwatch times. In Nascar, drag racing or any sport where time is the main factor stop watches aren't used and for good reason. It takes a split second reaction for the hand to do what the eye see's. It may be a hundred of a second but where it really counts you can't have that. Thats why timing with a stopwatch with machines sawing within a hundred of a second is bogus altogether. In car racing they use a lazer beam the car has to break to get the correct time, not a hand to eye reaction stopwatch. Stopwatches are a good indicator but its not the most accurate. So far as I'm concerned when a saw cuts say 9.99 and and another saw cuts 9.89 using a stopwatch it means nothing at all.

Wanted to rep you for that one, totally agree!!:biggrinbounce2:

I also agree that the finish of the pro Stihls are generally better than on the Huskys, but that changes when they are used some time, as paint flakes off the metal much easier on Stihls, and the white plastic is no more white.......

 

[THALL10326]

Yes it's all fun and games untill someone gets there eye poked out.

I look at it this way;
If your going to dish it out, Ya better be able to take it. LOL

Good point. I like mixing it up, its all in good fun. I could give a hoot in hell who uses what or what people say is this or that. I don't think I poke anyone's eye out, I recieve back as much as I give and I take it in stride, tant no biggie..

 

[THALL10326]

Wanted to rep you for that one, totally agree!!:biggrinbounce2:

I also agree that the finish of the pro Stihls are generally better than on the Huskys, but that changes when they are used some time, as paint flakes off the metal much easier on Stihls, and the white plastic is no more white.......

Glad to see you agree about these stopwatch deals. I oftened wondered just how accurate can they be when they are used no where else when time is the main factor. Glad to see you understand what I'm talking about in hand to eye reaction time. A second between two saws sawing wood to me means nothing, not one single thing.

The paint has already started coming off the corner of the crankcase on my 372 Sawtroll, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,LOL I also see pink Huskies after they fade so watch it old man,LOLOL When I said fit and finnish I meant fit and finnish. That rope sticking up one inch out of the handle is poor finnish but does it matter to me, hell no. To a picky azz customer it would. I'm in the sell business so I have to see these things. I got a eye for detail to sell. Old guys like us could care less but you'd be surprised how many customers would look at that and go hmmmmmmmm, whats the deal on that. In the sell business a saw has to look like a new car, perfect all over, no faults..

 

[manual]

hows that Swedish crow tase. LOL

I forgot, where did I buy the 372. Glad you brought that up. I was intending on buying it from a bonified Husky dealer on this site. He can attest I e-mailed him about getting one. To my surprise he didn't have any and couldn't get any at the time and you can ask him why, he wasn't too thrilled about it.

So after a few months after I thought the 372 was disappearing for good and I wanted one before they were gone. There is no place around here to buy one, I couldn't get one from a bonified dealer so I did what everyone else does, I had no choice but go Baileys. Its not my cup of tea but when your stuck with it what else can ya do. I blame Husky for this non-sense of being stuck with mail order because they slight their own dealers..

LOL.
Now I know you tried to get that 372 from a dealer.

Heres the "Real deal"
You have been bashing Husky for a long time now about mail order.

Soooooo What Husky did was bait you, Yes thats right. Bait you.
Husky put out a lot of money to get back at you but it worked.

First;
they came out with the 575

Second;
Husky started down sizing there marketing the 372 in the States

Third;
came out with a bogis statement about dealer sales only.

Forth;
Stopped shipping 372's to the dealers as soon as you said you wanted to buy a 372.

Fifth;
Made 372 avialable mail order only.

Sixth;
Took your cash and served you crow.

LOL, Yep Husky finally got ya.
teach ya to mess with the best.

Now the rest of us can buy the 372 at dealer stores again.

 

[THALL10326]

Mentioning lasers for timing. I heard there is a show down south that sets it wood up with a laser on the top and bottom. Timing starts when laser is broke at top first time down and stops after laser is broke on 2 cut down through at bottom.

Good to see they are getting it down pat. A stopwatch is a good indicator if thats all you have to work with but it sure as hell isn't the most accurate. I sat here and timed the same cut ten times only a few times out of ten did I get the same exact time. Close yes, but on the money, no. If time is going to be the deciding factor the money rides on then stopwatches are out. There is no way to make up for the hand to eye reaction time to be dead accurate everytime. Close but no cigar.

 

[THALL10326]

LOL.
Now I know you tried to get that 372 from a dealer.

Heres the "Real deal"
You have been bashing Husky for a long time now about mail order.

Soooooo What Husky did was bait you, Yes thats right. Bait you.
Husky put out a lot of money to get back at you but it worked.

First;
they came out with the 575

Second;
Husky started down sizing there marketing the 372 in the States

Third;
came out with a bogis statement about dealer sales only.

Forth;
Stopped shipping 372's to the dealers as soon as you said you wanted to buy a 372.

Fifth;
Made 372 avialable mail order only.

Sixth;
Took your cash and served you crow.

LOL, Yep Husky finally got ya.
teach ya to mess with the best.

Now the rest of us can buy the 372 at dealer stores again.

So what your telling me is they will use any tactic they can to sell a saw. Hmmm wouldn't it be easier to just make a decent saw and stop all this non-sense. Do what Stihl does, build a good saw and sell it,LOLOLOLOL, gotcha