Another "Bar Type Question"

[WOLF_RIVER_MIKE]

Just to get some different opinions...I ordered a Husqvarna saw (357xp) over the Internet a couple of days ago. Since then I have observed this list and wondered is there a reason to replace the stock husky bar? Is Oregon or Windsor a superior bar? I will be cutting hardwood for firewood, no rocks, mostly clean timber. Thanks -Mike

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

 

[Rotax Robert]

Under normal wood cutting conditions and home-owner usage the stock bar should be fine. A pro may go after other makes since he has to make a living with his saw. My favorite is Cannon but most of my saws are equiped with Oregon

 

[WOLF_RIVER_MIKE]

thank you, Mr. Robert
I don't make my living with a saw, at least not today, but I do live on a farm. Is there a material difference, just curious, what's up? Thanks again

Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?

 

[tundraotto]

an oregon bar that (if)( it comes (with) should be great) - i did a lot of research into this subject - until mr fish blew me out of the water - lol..(about and where the inferior sandviks were made in the us)

husky in us=oregon
husqvarna in europe=sandvik (not victor ie. nothing- just plain good ole sandvik)...

lol...that makes me think sandvik bars are better - is that crazy? sandvik has a real good rep in scandinavia and they have never heard of oregon - im puzzled!!!!!

PS. just to let you all know toyota makes the best trucks and if you all cant start and argument over all this youre all gay!!!!!!! - not that there is anything wrong with that...

 

[WOLF_RIVER_MIKE]

i have to show my ignorance and ask. what in the h**l is lol. I've been seeing people print this for months. I'm sorry I missed that somewhere. Anyway, I'mthinking there must not be a whole hell of a lot of difference, ecspically in the first bar? Arkansas, are you telling me it's just a US vs. them thing?

"I used to have a handle on life, but it broke."

 

[sedanman]

lol =laughing out loud
roflmao = rolling on (the) floor laughing my ass off
imo = in my opinion
imho = in my humble opinion
There are TONS more.

 

[HUSKYMAN]

Toyota trucks are for girls. Sure they run for 2 million miles before the engine dies but put a heavy load behind them and the frame is sitting on the ground and it cant go more than 30 mph.

That being said do not bother changing the bar, the Husqvarna is a Oregon Power Match Plus, the second best bar they make.
You would be wasting money by changing.

 

[Walt Galer]

Howdy Tundraotto,

Oregon is not in Scandanavia with guidbars, because years ago they made an agreement with Sandvik not to market guidebars in Sweden, if Sandvik would cease the manufacture of sawchain, and not persue Oregon on the Sandvik sprocketnose patent. To Oregon, the sawchain market was far more important than the guidebar market in Sweden! This also could be used against competitive guide bar manufacturer's such as Windsor.

Regards,
Walt Galer

 

[FSburt]

hey walt whats the deal on a Windser chromium bar or is there such a name. I have a neighbor that was faller and he used a bar on his 084 that he calls a chromium bar. It is chrome or polished stainless steel looks like anyway. It looks like it would be a good bucking bar because is is slippery and would not bind as quick while try to nip that last piece of wood in a big buck. Hey tundraotta your comment about sanvik and oregon bars brought back memories I was the one that got that conversation off to a controversial start when fish made that correction in the toolshed forum. take care. Its a good day for a removal.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi There, I like the 16" Oregon Power Match. The one I have is Canadian made and I did a 6 acre clearcut with one where the majority of the trees had to be stump jumped, without a single chain throw using the same chain for the whole job. I flipped and dressed the bar daily and the GB 7T gear had almost no wear and the bar groove showed very little where as well. The life of a bar is only as good as the one who is filing the chain and paying attention to all other cutting attachments. I have a Carlton bar on its way, so it will be interesting to see how it does, although I think I will save it for racing.
John

 

[Walt Galer]

HowdyFS Burst,

As to the question about a "chromium" bar; Yes, vertually all manufacturer's have at some time or other had the brainstorm of trying to make a chrome plated guidebar (except I have no recollection of one from Stihl). The idea is to make the bar attractive and stand out on the display rack, justify a higher price, and yes, resist corrosion.

It is a joke actually, because it rapidly becomes prohibitively expensive at the factory, far more than was anticipated, after the chrome bath gets dirty and has to be purged. Then, low and behold, you have a barrel of some of the most enviromentally hazardous heavy metal waste that you can come by. Oops! This is not to mention the workers in the area getting plated, from the inside out. The bar also has to be better prepared for the finish than for a powder paint.

Yes, Windsor under Sandvik did this a couple years ago, and Oregon just before that. Everyone seems to have to repeat the experience, and then someone else has to equal it.

Regards,
Walt Galer

 

[confused]

I retract my previous post because it does not pretain to the subject matter.

 

[chainsawworld]

mike,
wait untill the stock husky bar pukes in about three weeks and replace it with GB. all my husky bars seem to puke in three to four weeks in the high rpm saws. i do have an oregon bar on my 153 sachs-dolmar(came that way new with a 38 inch set-up, hard to wear that out on those rpms). for some reason, the bearings in the husky bars do not take the high rpms of todays saws.
you will find the 357 to be an owesome saw!!!!! cuts like crazy. at $479.00 delivered to your home you can not beat it. seems a little steep but, once you run one you will be hooked.
protect yourselves; marty

 

[FSburt]

hey chainsawworld you having problems with the husky bars tips exploding bearings. Thats a common thing on our saws so we switched to sandvik bars and they appear to be holding up well. good luck. Hey walt thanks for the info on the bar.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi there, this isnt a universal statement or an attempt to hurt the feelings of my Southern brothers/ or sisters, but any U.S. bars I have used were not as tough as Canadian bars, ie, Oregon, or Winsor. The bar groove seemed to wear at an alarming rate, however I havent used a U.S. bar for some time now.
Tip explosion is usually a user related problem steming from bar groove wear and using the tip too much which compounds the problem by the kickback that results.
John

 

[tundraotto]

maybe its something to do with the raw steel - quality here is pretty crappy - i drilled into an I beam last week made by sheffield steel in england probably in the 1920s and my god, i could hardly get through it witha brand new drill bit - drilled some new domestic angle iron with the same drill bit and it just ate through it... the bars might all be made in the same factory though.

anyway can you tell me where i could find a sandvik 24"bar from canada - walkers? and yeah - for a cheap arkie price!!

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hey Otto, ya DP. Dennis the buffalo hunter can help you as can Walkers.
Anyway, I found a picture of tundratoyotaotto.
John

 

[Gypo Logger]

Sorry, forgot Otto's picture.
John

 

[tundraotto]

rofl - how did ya find that? ???? - you amaze me sometimes with the stuff yoiu come up with - lol - youre right never thought of dennis - ill ask him. get on the chat - the parachat - ie. the deviate chat:angel:

 

[Kevin]

How about a quick education of where some of the bars are made?

Oregon/Husqvarna ... Canada
Windsor/Sandvik...
Cannon...
Stihl...
GB... Australia
Jonsered...
others ...