Another tree id please

[Deleted member 135597]

Looks like the only thing higher on the btu chart than hop hornbeam is Osage orange

 

[blacklocst]

I'll eat my hat if it turns out to be Hop Hornbeam.

 

[Woody912]

I'll eat my hat if it turns out to be Hop Hornbeam.

I will provide the condiments if he has to eat his hat. Every pic that I have seen says slippery elm. Bark, leaves and wood

 

[bigwhiteash]

The way I ID wood is by the cross section of the end grain cut with a razor blade/something sharp and viewed with 5X or better magnification. Bark can vary a lot, even on the same tree, leaves also. In the case of Hophornbeam, it's diffuse porous VS ring porous for Elm. That would be clear from one look with a loupe. Elm also has a wavy pattern to the pores that's very characteristic. If it's ring porous, it's not Hop or Birch. J

 

[Deleted member 135597]

The way I ID wood is by the cross section of the end grain cut with a razor blade/something sharp and viewed with 5X or better magnification. Bark can vary a lot, even on the same tree, leaves also. In the case of Hophornbeam, it's diffuse porous VS ring porous for Elm. That would be clear from one look with a loupe. Elm also has a wavy pattern to the pores that's very characteristic. If it's ring porous, it's not Hop or Birch. J

I will try and do this today

 

[lone wolf]

I will try and do this today

Contact that guy at Virginia Tech and settle it.

 

[lone wolf]

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/doctor/doctor.cfm

 

[Deleted member 135597]

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/doctor/doctor.cfm

I will definitely send him all the pictures when I get time.

 

[lone wolf]

I will definitely send him all the pictures when I get time.

Please do it may help.

 

[Deleted member 135597]

I cut a round and tried to split it with this. It's all I have at work. It bounced off like the wood was rubber. I will get it cracked open when I get home later

 

[Deleted member 135597]

The way I ID wood is by the cross section of the end grain cut with a razor blade/something sharp and viewed with 5X or better magnification. Bark can vary a lot, even on the same tree, leaves also. In the case of Hophornbeam, it's diffuse porous VS ring porous for Elm. That would be clear from one look with a loupe. Elm also has a wavy pattern to the pores that's very characteristic. If it's ring porous, it's not Hop or Birch. J

do you have a picture of what i'm looking for when I do this?

 

[Deleted member 135597]

http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/hardwood-anatomy/

 

[Deleted member 135597]

when I look through a 10x loupe it looks like the red elm picture in the link I posted

 

[bigwhiteash]

That link has a pic of 'Red Elm', where you can see the wavy pore structure. Oak or Ash are good examples of ring porous. If you look at Maple-Birch-Cherry, you'll see what diffuse porous looks like. Hophornbeam is in that group too. You only need a small X-section of heartwood to ID.
Elm can be a bitch to split by hand and so stringy, it's even a pain with a hydro splitter, DTDT. JinNJ

 

[bigwhiteash]

That seems to narrow it down to Elm or Hackberry. Guess it could be Hackberry, but I'm not familiar with that tree/wood.

 

[Deleted member 135597]

That seems to narrow it down to Elm or Hackberry. Guess it could be Hackberry, but I'm not familiar with that tree/wood.

yes I was just goin to say that I saw that hackberry has the same structure as elm. does anything else?

 

[Deleted member 135597]

I'll eat my hat if it turns out to be Hop Hornbeam.

looks like you probably won't be eating your hat

 

[bigwhiteash]

I think all the Elms have the wavy thing, Hackberry and that's it. BTW, this way of IDing wood is a helpful tool if you need to know what you have and aren't sure. A gray area is the hybids that show up, but you'll probably still get close enough..
JinNJ

 

[DFK]

I still vote Elm of some sote.
Look back to #45. See how thick the bark is.
HHB has thin bark. Elm has thick bark.

Woody: See if you can get the bark to peel of in long strips.
It might be difficult to start but it should peel.

David

 

[Deleted member 135597]

I still vote Elm of some sote.
Look back to #45. See how thick the bark is.
HHB has thin bark. Elm has thick bark.

Woody: See if you can get the bark to peel of in long strips.
It might be difficult to start but it should peel.

David

Hop horn beam is out. We are down to elm and a remote chance of hackberry