does anybody know if stihl is going to be making any of the bigger saw with the new designs they put on the 441? 661 would be pretty nice
Funny they'' Sthil'' say new for this year on Stihls sold in Canada! Finally I saw one! Count on a year later than the U.S up here! But I would rather Run a Jonsered any way! Looking to trade my like new 044 with heated handles for a 2171 with full wrapI placed a call to North East Stihl late last summer. Seems the 441 was already being sold and the techs there hadn't even run one.
I placed a call to North East Stihl late last summer. Seems the 441 was already being sold and the techs there hadn't even run one.
And then?
If the 2009 EPA rules are really what is driving the new models it seems like Stihl is way behind. Do 2009 models show up in late 2008 like cars? It seems like we should be seeing a least a couple new models this year and a bunch next year? I asked my dealer and he told me only the 441 passes the 2009 specs.
Brad
I wouldn't say that Stihl is way behind......if anything they are prolly the most ready. By ready I mean models that we don't know of!!!
I wouldn't say that Stihl is way behind......if anything they are prolly the most ready. By ready I mean models that we don't know of!!!
I agree with you, they will have models ready that are probably going through the end of their testing phase and will be out soon.
If the 2009 EPA rules are really what is driving the new models it seems like Stihl is way behind. Do 2009 models show up in late 2008 like cars? It seems like we should be seeing a least a couple new models this year and a bunch next year? I asked my dealer and he told me only the 441 passes the 2009 specs.
Brad
The funny thing about Stihl is they probly already have though we know nothing about it. Alot goes into design, research and testing before word of the product ever leaves the building. Also not every new design goes into production so its anyones guess what they got going on. Rest assured though they always got something going on. With new EPA standards coming no doult new models are coming to meet those standards...
I talked to a Stihl Rep at the Eastern Outdoor Sport Show last month. He told me the 441 had been tested for 3 years before it hit the production floor to be sold to the masses.
Stihl is way ahead and have been for a long time. EPA gives the whole product line a rating it has to meet. Meaning they don't go by each model product. Stihl came out with the 4-mix trimmer, the 4-mix blowers and the 441 in order to to keep some of the so called dirty models that as of now will not pass. Those models don't have to pass to meet the rating for the rating is met with all the clean burning 4-mix trimmers, blowers and now the 441. Its the overall product line that has to meet EPA, not each model. The dirty running saws like the 880,660,460 have survived thanks to all the other clean running models in the line up, be saw, trimmer or blower, they all count toward the rating set by EPA. As standards get higher and higher no doult those saws will go but will be last to go. I think Stihl right now has come out with a computer fed carb on the MS280 to clean that model up. That should be a ball to work on, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, so much for the good ole days.
I can believe that. A awful lot goes on that the public never sees. One thing is for certain, all the companies are behind the scenes in labs doing research and building new designs as we speak. They never sit idle.
In the other parts of their product line the BR340 blower and FS80/80R trimmers are going away at some point this year. (thank god we have 40 of the 80R's in stock for the spring rush). With the MS280, I think i ought to look and see if the ones we just got in recently have the new carb. The electronics are powered off the coil right?
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