Attn Treetx, knut hitch

[TheTreeSpyder]

The leg of the tail you might leave in the karab on a Distel could start low single half hitch, then move to the upper 3 turns moving down. Then capture the free tail on the karab.

On the Knut, start with 1 tail on the karab, but start high on the host line and spiral 4 turns down, take the free standing tail, twist and muenter around the host under the 4 coils, grabbing the tethered tail in the muenter too, then caapteur that free tail on the karab.

What about using a 'quick link' (like an open chain link that you seal close by twisting a 1' long nut closed), that says not for lifeline use. Made a few lanyards with ones rated at 2200# with a 4/1 safety factor, twisted them close with wrenches. They are cheaper, smaller profile, and are narrower inside, just big enough for passing a 1/2" line through of the lanyard to make the attatchment device double as a knot tender. Some lil'innovation i am curretntly crediting to first seeing Bri refer to. The closer confines on the line, i think make the tending more positive. I've seen these things take plenty in loading situations industrially, and don't think it will come open if properly torqued down with wrench.

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

i've been climbing with knut for a few months now and like it in a 5/16"dbl.braid. Also have made several selftending lanyards for folks with it, that seem well recieved.

Something simpler about distel; keeps me thinking i will try it again for a while in this 5/16" to compare.

I was wondering if any of you other guys have switched back from knut, or if more have tried it.

It self tends very well, and is very interesting knot, worth a try.

 

[ramanujan]

i've climbed for a while on both the knut hitch and a selftending VT similar to the turner twist bigjohn mentioned.

i always come back to a regular VT with a micropulley tho, nothing can equal it for ease of slack advancement and control of descent.

i find that any friction hitch other than a VT will in some circumstances bind and become slower and more difficult to advance, requiring you to stop and work the knot loose.

 

[Tim Gardner]

You can not beat the 4 & 3 vt unless you move to a mechanical hitch. I even get the vt to work with srt when I use the same type of rope as the host and use 3 wrap four braid.

 

[geofore]

NickfromWI

If you have a little extra starter rope around tie the knots you like and put them in your tool box, that way they are there to look at when you need to rememmber.