Bc600xl/625a

[TimberMcPherson]

Nice job woodchux.

If you can afford it, get the bigger capacity chipper, I have a 6x6 and a 6x12 chipper and the later takes a third of the time and effort to get the same job done.

 

[gr8scott72]

Nice job woodchux.

If you can afford it, get the bigger capacity chipper, I have a 6x6 and a 6x12 chipper and the later takes a third of the time and effort to get the same job done.

And costs 3 times as much!

 

[treeoperations]

i bought a 625 brand new i put less then 30 hours on it and sold the basturd cause i found a 65 bandit and omg there is no comparison, it is same power but seams to chip faster then the vermeer hands down.

i have recently worked with a guy thats got a new 65 with 40hp kubota what a awesome weapon

 

[TimberMcPherson]

And costs 3 times as much!

Yeah luckily here we have local made HANSA 6x12 chippers that arent much more in price than the vermeer and cheaper than the bandit that are awesome and the company will customise it to what the client wants. I have one of there old 6x6's and its done 12 years hard labour with 4 different tree companies and other than wearing out the odd engine anvil and blades it just keeps trucking.

Bandit has sold a few "factory seconds" down this way as brand new machines which have cost unsuspecting owners alot and left them with sub standard overpriced white elephants, the distributor down here is great and its not his doing, but bandit using the New Zealand market to flick off machines it wouldnt have to guts to sell in the US is just disgusting.
Id like to think its an honest mistake but there has been 3 guys on this site that have had this problem and NZ is a tiny market, doubt they sell more than 10 a year.

Shame on you bandit.

 

[lumberjack333]

Thanks for all the input guys, as you can see I've been away from the board for 7 days or so, christmas vacation Lots of good ideas bouncing around between you treetards, sounds like its definatly possible to swap that little kohler out for a bit more power... Still leaning toward the vermeer over bandit, the opinion seems to go both ways based on the different experiences out there... I'm gonna try one myself I think before I decide either way.

As far as 6" vs. 12" goes, I know the difference the larger chipper makes is exponential... But the two things holding me back are price and weight, this is a starter chipper for me and will be my first big investment into the business besides my truck. And the truck I'm pulling it all with is only a half ton with 2 springs added to the back end, it wouldn't be able to handle a load of chips and the 12" chipper. At least not for very long anyways haha. The 6" will be a big upgrade from nothing, and will make my jobs go much much smoother.

As far as saw storage goes, I've only got two saw right now, and a small amount of gear to drag around. I plan on setting up my truck with sides on the box, and elevated storage box behind the cab resting on the sides of the truck attached to my "Back Rack" about 2ft x 2ft and as wide as the truck. This will be a tight fit but I laid out all my gear and it will hold two saws, fuel and oil and my climbing/rigging gear... Rakes, axes, shovels will be standing on end down the sides of the box and my ladder goes on top of it all. Not the most effiecent setup I know, but its all I have to work with for now so it will do.

Thanks again guys, and I was only kidding about the treetard thing... mostly :greenchainsaw:

 

[TimberMcPherson]

Thanks for all the input guys, as you can see I've been away from the board for 7 days or so, christmas vacation Lots of good ideas bouncing around between you treetards, sounds like its definatly possible to swap that little kohler out for a bit more power... Still leaning toward the vermeer over bandit, the opinion seems to go both ways based on the different experiences out there... I'm gonna try one myself I think before I decide either way.

As far as 6" vs. 12" goes, I know the difference the larger chipper makes is exponential... But the two things holding me back are price and weight, this is a starter chipper for me and will be my first big investment into the business besides my truck. And the truck I'm pulling it all with is only a half ton with 2 springs added to the back end, it wouldn't be able to handle a load of chips and the 12" chipper. At least not for very long anyways haha. The 6" will be a big upgrade from nothing, and will make my jobs go much much smoother.

As far as saw storage goes, I've only got two saw right now, and a small amount of gear to drag around. I plan on setting up my truck with sides on the box, and elevated storage box behind the cab resting on the sides of the truck attached to my "Back Rack" about 2ft x 2ft and as wide as the truck. This will be a tight fit but I laid out all my gear and it will hold two saws, fuel and oil and my climbing/rigging gear... Rakes, axes, shovels will be standing on end down the sides of the box and my ladder goes on top of it all. Not the most effiecent setup I know, but its all I have to work with for now so it will do.

Thanks again guys, and I was only kidding about the treetard thing... mostly :greenchainsaw:

Im talking about 6x12 ie the feed is 6 inches high and 12 inches wide where the vermeer is 6 by 6. Makes one heck of a difference, like makes it able to handle 3 times more stuff without secondry cutting, but the weight isnt much more.

 

[lumberjack333]

Ahhh interesting, that sounds like it would make chipping a little more efficient than the 6x6. Does that include a little more power to run the drum/disc and hydraulics? How much more weight are we talking? Gonna google it now, see what I can learn.

 

[woodchux]

There's a little bandit with a wisconsin engine for sale on ebay right now.... they want $5299
http://cgi.ebay.com/MIGHTY-BANDIT-2...d_Chippers_Stump_Grinders?hash=item5ad630e6dd

 

[bighugetrees]

Why the 625

"the 625 is the best chipper Vermeer has ever made." I love you man!

Own a 625 and rent bigger ones for the big jobs. In 2001, a brand new 625 cost $10,500. A little down and my payment was close to a one day rental fee. Think about that.

Another over looked benefit is that it cannot pull you through like the big chippers. Just like big "Y" on limbs, I think it would only eat you up to say your shoulder. The big "Y" would then be your neck and shoulder.

If this happens to me as an owner of a 625, I'll be sure to post story and pictures. Work safe.

 

[treeoperations]

Ahhh interesting, that sounds like it would make chipping a little more efficient than the 6x6. Does that include a little more power to run the drum/disc and hydraulics? How much more weight are we talking? Gonna google it now, see what I can learn.

there is bugger all weight difference, my bandit is only 25hp and it doesnt struggle very often, but there is no comparison between a vermeer with its 6x6 opening and a bandit with its 6x12 opening, the bandit is just out right far superior machine. there are a couple other companys building chippers with a 6x12 opening, hansa (made here in nz), bear cat and i think the morbarks are 6x12 aswell.

by all means try a vermeer, then try and machine like a bandit, i can tell you, you wont touch the vermeer, i sold a brand new vermeer (30hrs) for a 4 year old bandit and im glad i did.

 

[fishercat]

there is no doubt the Bandit is the better machine.

there is bugger all weight difference, my bandit is only 25hp and it doesnt struggle very often, but there is no comparison between a vermeer with its 6x6 opening and a bandit with its 6x12 opening, the bandit is just out right far superior machine. there are a couple other companys building chippers with a 6x12 opening, hansa (made here in nz), bear cat and i think the morbarks are 6x12 aswell.

by all means try a vermeer, then try and machine like a bandit, i can tell you, you wont touch the vermeer, i sold a brand new vermeer (30hrs) for a 4 year old bandit and im glad i did.

Bandits are always superior over any Vermeer in any model or size.

the only problem is,there are a lot more used Vermeer 625s out there versus Bandit 65s.

if you get the Vermeer set up correctly,it's really not that bad of a machine.the rental units are never set up or adjusted right.ask Stihl-O-Matic about the difference between mine and a rental unit.

i have used the Bandit 65 and it is nicer i agree.

 

[lumberjack333]

Just watched a youtube video of the bandit at work, looks like a damn decent machine... Hmmrmmm Bandit...

 

[treeoperations]

Bandits are always superior over any Vermeer in any model or size.

the only problem is,there are a lot more used Vermeer 625s out there versus Bandit 65s.

if you get the Vermeer set up correctly,it's really not that bad of a machine.the rental units are never set up or adjusted right.ask Stihl-O-Matic about the difference between mine and a rental unit.

i have used the Bandit 65 and it is nicer i agree.

i know what you mean about there being more vermeers for sale then bandits but i am confident in saying the time saved in trimming is worth the extra coin to buy a new one, i just got bloody lucky when my father was reading a buy and sell paper one sunday morning.

 

[rydnruff]

fishercat

what did you do to your 625 that was different than the rental version.i have a 625 that im gettin ready to sell but if i can make it a little better i could hold on to it for a bit longer to save up a bigger down payment on a 12


thanks
brian

 

[fishercat]

few things.

what did you do to your 625 that was different than the rental version.i have a 625 that im gettin ready to sell but if i can make it a little better i could hold on to it for a bit longer to save up a bigger down payment on a 12


thanks
brian

clean fuel filter .

belt adjusted correctly.

blades sharp and set to the correct gap with the bed knife.

if the bed knife has never been adjusted,you will need some PB Blaster and some heat on the bolts.depending on how old it is and how many hours are on it,you may be able to accomplish this by replacing the knives with brand new ones.

 

[D Mc]

clean fuel filter .

belt adjusted correctly.

blades sharp and set to the correct gap with the bed knife.

if the bed knife has never been adjusted,you will need some PB Blaster and some heat on the bolts.depending on how old it is and how many hours are on it,you may be able to accomplish this by replacing the knives with brand new ones.

All that, plus disconnect the auto-feed regulator. You will need to set the speed on the feed roller depending on the brush of the moment, but it is worth it. It chips like a different machine.

Dave

 

[fishercat]

i bought an aftermarket autofeed controller.

All that, plus disconnect the auto-feed regulator. You will need to set the speed on the feed roller depending on the brush of the moment, but it is worth it. It chips like a different machine.

Dave

the Vermeer one is garbage. it won't stop them from selling you another piece of garbage for $400.

you can call Vermeer for a price on parts when you need a good laugh but 99.9999% of the stuff you can get else where for a hell of a lot less.

 

[andrewhayes12]

Problems with Auto Feed on my BC 625

Anyone know where to get an aftermarket version of the autofeed control box for a BC 625?

 

[codog]

control box

Mine went out last fall. When they told me the price of a new one, I decided to just slow the infeed down enough so it won't bog down. I did some research and found a company other than Vermeer who sold this box. The savings was less than $30 if I remember right. I'm a small timer. Mostly small jobs. Just hard to swallow the price for that little box. I'm thinking it was around $400 from Vermeer; if not more.

 

[treeoperations]

Try taking it to a Auto sparky, my mates chipper did it and my auto electrician managed to make it work dont ask me how.

buy a bandit 65 and discover what a 6 inch machine can really do haha