Beach Combing & Milling

[DRB]

Spent a week at the coast and was able to get two days of milling in.

During the first cut I hit a rock that was embedded in the log and dulled every tooth on the chain. I could not finish the cut and had to pull out the saw and resharpen it. What a pain

The plan was to mill 2 x 8's so I blocked out 8" cants with the 088. The 365 was used to mill the boards from the cants. I prefer to use the 365 for milling boards as it is much lighter and uses less fuel.

All said and done I ended up with 25 2x8x10.5' or about 333 board feet if my math is correct.

Sorry about some of the foggy pictures but my camera was having fogging issues with weather.

 

[DRB]

Picture of lumber pile before resawing the slab wood into boards.

 

[DRB]

Packing the 088 any distance is a real pain in the butt.

Once again the 088 was used to cut 8" cants and the 365 was used to cut 2x8x10.5" boards. This log also produced 25 boards or about 333 board feet.

In 2 days of milling with lots of packing of equipment, guide board & lumber I was pretty happy with out come. 50 - 2x8x10.5' boards at about 666 board feet.

I was only able to get 30 board in my old Ford for the 10 hour trip home with kids, dog and luggage and milling equipment oh ya the wife to. The rest will have to dry out at dads for now.

I was also able to fit this band saw in the truck that I picked up for 300 bucks in the city on the way home.

Hope you enjoy the pics. It was a fun milling trip.

 

[Coalsmoke]

Looks like a good trip. My hats off to you, I know how much work is in CSM, and to come out with 650 bdft of 2x8 is a good deal of work. Where in BC do you call home, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[BobL]

A couple of days later I found another Sitka Spruce the same size but I had to walk down the beach to get it. Packing the 088 any distance is a real pain in the butt.

To Move the 880, have you thought about putting the 088 into your mill and adding wheels to the ends of the mill rails?
Like this

Hope you enjoy the pics. It was a fun milling trip.

Sure did - top job - thanks for posting

 

[DRB]

To Move the 880, have you thought about putting the 088 into your mill and adding wheels to the ends of the mill rails?
Like this

Sure did - top job - thanks for posting

I have thought about installing wheels but worry about twisting my mills frame on rough terrain like rocks on the beach.

The other thing is if you can't pack the mill in then you are unlikely able to carry the lumber out.

 

[DRB]

Looks like a good trip. My hats off to you, I know how much work is in CSM, and to come out with 650 bdft of 2x8 is a good deal of work. Where in BC do you call home, if you don't mind me asking?

I was happy how it went.

The Shuswap area is home.

 

[olyman]

no problems with forest police???--as some have said on this forum--if they in a river or such--have to pay to remove them???

 

[mtngun]

Thanks for the milling pics, DRB. Looks like typical dreary PNW winter weather, but still pretty nonetheless.

 

[DRB]

I can't imagine why as both these logs have been on the beach for a long time. One was likely to short at 10 feet and the other was badly cracked in the middle and 10 feet was all I could get.

I am not selling the lumber to make money. I am using it for finishing lumber for my future house.

 

[DRB]

Thanks for the milling pics, DRB. Looks like typical dreary PNW winter weather, but still pretty nonetheless.

Ya. But it's nice to get away from the snow and freezing weather for a while.

 

[BC WetCoast]

I can't imagine why as both these logs have been on the beach for a long time. One was likely to short at 10 feet and the other was badly cracked in the middle and 10 feet was all I could get.

I am not selling the lumber to make money. I am using it for finishing lumber for my future house.

You still needed a timber mark to salvage merchantable timber. Might be wise to take those pics off the web.

Also the Dept Fisheries and Oceans might not be impressed with the introduction of substances (sawdust) deleterious to fish into the ocean.

 

[clearance]

You still needed a timber mark to salvage merchantable timber. Might be wise to take those pics off the web.

Also the Dept Fisheries and Oceans might not be impressed with the introduction of substances (sawdust) deleterious to fish into the ocean.

Sad to say, you are probably right. That is what it has come to here. I think you need a timber stamp on any log on a truck over 8' as well. Good God, what have we become? Anyways, good for you DRB, looks nice.

 

[Coalsmoke]

Sad to say, you are probably right. That is what it has come to here. I think you need a timber stamp on any log on a truck over 8' as well. Good God, what have we become? Anyways, good for you DRB, looks nice.

Its anything 48" in length or greater.

 

[losttheplot]

All cut timber on the beach or in the water will (should) have a timber stamp on one end of it.

To salvage any of this wood you must have a log salvage license. This gives you a LS number to display on your boat. Last I checked it was about $250 to apply for one. It also gives you a timber stamp of your own which you must mark all salvaged wood with immediately. This would make you a log salvage Guy.

Some areas will issue a permit which allows you to collect a few cords of wood for fire wood. You are not allowed to collect any cedar; or anything else that is over 7 feet. (might be slightly shorter I cant remember)

A log salvage guy must never remove wood from the water, he may drag it from the beach with his boat into the water, to be moved by boat. It is stored at his booming grounds. Then when he has enough it is towed to the log sort owned by Gulf log.

Any salvaged wood must be sold back to the people who originally cut it. A log salvage guy is not allowed to own a saw mill. A log salvage guy must not sell the wood in any shape or form to anyone but the company that "auctions" the wood back to its members, I mean customers, the logging corporations. Less the cost of removing the dogs and handling etc....

There were once many people making a living as a log salvage guy here on the coast. Because of the monopoly of the buyers, the rise in fuel costs and the fall in timber prices the log salvage guy is fast becoming a thing of the past.

Only red or yellow cedar and the best Doug Fir is worth collecting by a log salvage guy. Instead of allowing people to harvest the lost timber and turn it into a value added product, the wood is left to rot on the beaches. This causes damage to boats and the foreshore. As well as wasting huge amounts of resources.

The beaches on the southern part of the province are COVERED in wood. This is not a small amount we are talking about.

Then again Canada is doing such a great job of managing its timber resources. I am sure the people that are in charge have a great plan for all the drift wood, we just dont know it yet.

 

[1harlowr]

Big Brother must be really big north of the border. I would love to have a monopoly as the buyer of something. Especially if sellers must sell only to me by law. :monkey:

 

[bigbadbob]

Big Brother must be really big north of the border.

Big brother is huge here!! My wallet is bulging with permits and licenses, but no cash,, they got that too!!!

 

[clearance]

Big brother is huge here!! My wallet is bulging with permits and licenses, but no cash,, they got that too!!!

Yep, Hi Bob, happy new year. Has to be bucked to 4', wow. About log salvage, remember that show The Beachcombers, with Relic?

 

[mtngun]

To salvage any of this wood you must have a log salvage license. This gives you a LS number to display on your boat. Last I checked it was about $250 to apply for one. It also gives you a timber stamp of your own which you must mark all salvaged wood with immediately. This would make you a log salvage Guy.

Instead of allowing people to harvest the lost timber and turn it into a value added product, the wood is left to rot on the beaches. This causes damage to boats and the foreshore. As well as wasting huge amounts of resources.

The beaches on the southern part of the province are COVERED in wood. This is not a small amount we are talking about.

We have some dumb wood cutting rules in the US but thank goodness there is little enforcement in rural areas.

I can understand having rules to prevent "poaching" logs as that is a known problem in some third world countries. However, I'll be darned if I can see the harm in letting people salvage deadwood that would otherwise rot.

Oh well, DRB, just don't get caught.

 

[bigbadbob]

Yep, Hi Bob, happy new year. Has to be bucked to 4', wow. About log salvage, remember that show The Beachcombers, with Relic?

Happy new year to you to.

Hafta laugh!!! I lived in Gibsons when it was being filmed, major pita, they blocked roads etc at will!!! Relic was a pretty cool guy, his co-hort was not.
Put plenty of cash in the locals pockets. I have been on the 'Persephone'
taking equipment to Keats and Gambier island, some noisey boat 353 jimmy, steel sheeted wooden hull, there is a sister boat also .
I belive the jet boat from the show is still beachcombing there, 460 ford in that. Mollys Reach is a cafe now.