Bent bars

[TexasTreemonkey]

I got a worker that seems to bend more bars than i know what to do with, Any secrets on the best way to straighten them?

 

[BostonBull]

straight into the trash can!

are they mostly bars on the climbing saws?

 

[Justice]

Sure, everyone that he bends, he buys you a new one. He won't be bending many more.

Interested to hear how he is bending them though.

 

[John464]

if its just the tips. they can be punched out and replaced

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

Hey, I can't remember his handle but he said something about having employees pay for chains cuse theydull um !!!!!

 

[reachtreeservi]

Sure, everyone that he bends, he buys you a new one. He won't be bending many more.

Interested to hear how he is bending them though.

I work for myself, so I buy all the bars. But If I worked for someone else and bent one or bent one while running a borrowed saw , I'd buy them a new bar.

Or tell them to take it out of my check.
When I did HVAC work , and I broke one of the bosses tools, I bought the boss a tool.
If he was good enough to let me use one of his tools untill I could buy my own and I broke it and didn't offer to pay for it,
seemed to me like just plain ungratefulness on my part.
Plus I looked at it like , If the guy I work for Isn't making money, How long will I have a job ?

Take care of those around you, And you'll get took care of !
BTW , years later, my ex boss and I are still great friends.

 

[2FatGuys]

Reachtreeservi is right! Every employee should look at "the big picture". I know that's a utopian idea, but if they don't have the interest of the company in mind, the company won't be making it's full potential of profit, which translates to more money for owner and employee, alike.

 

[sloth9669]

maybe

Well that all sounds good and works great with company's with id say 50 people and less....anything more then that the company takes the money you ''save or make them'' i don't see a penny of the extra profits...mr big wig ceo gets it as part of his 50mill golden parachute.

 

[2FatGuys]

I understand the frustration. I know it seems like the workers get screwed, btu my goal is always to make the "big wig" enough so that he wants to share. Most know where the money is really being made and they know if they don't take care of "the little guys" then there won't be a lot of money rolling in.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Well that all sounds good and works great with company's with id say 50 people and less....anything more then that the company takes the money you ''save or make them'' i don't see a penny of the extra profits...mr big wig ceo gets it as part of his 50mill golden parachute.

It's not about seeing a penny, it's about taking responsibility for your actions. Whether there be 2 or 2000 people in the company, makes no differance.
If one of my guys bends a bar once in a great while, no problem (cost of doing business) I pay for it. But if one of my guys bends a bar every other day , then he's paying for them. Or he'll be looking for another job! Because if I and the rest of my crew can work properly and not bend bars , then that employee doing the bending is doing something wrong. If he was paying for equipment , I guarantee he'd be using a wedge or cutting it out with another saw. Holding someone responsible is the only way they will ever learn the right way. I don't ask anything out of my guys that I don't practice myself.
Sloth , Always remember: whatever your CEO gets is none of your business, You work for him. All you need to worry about is showing up on time and being as productive and safe as possible. In other words , what you agreed to when you were hired. Don't think about money , think about things like fairness, honor and responsibility and you will never want for friends or money....BTW : Taking care of another man's equipment and tools is just part of being a man.

 

[Justice]

Well put reachtreeservice. That was the point I was trying to make. If someone bends one that is one thing, if someone is bending them every week, or month then there is a problem.

I am still curious how the employee is bending bar's. It is very hard to bend a bar.

 

[Hddnis]

I have offered a raise in the past if an employee learned to do something better. I explain how they are costing me money; in one case costing me more per day than I was paying them. I have seen some amazing turnarounds come from helping my employees understand more about running a business. They usually say something like "Wow! How do you ever make any money?"


Mr. HE

 

[Themadd1]

Come on... If any guy who worked for me over the years proposed the thought of paying for damaged company equipment I would be floored.. My climbers get paid very well, and still wouldnt offer to pay me for a new bar. We have a slush fund set up for this type of issue. The more that breaks the less the crew gets at the end of the quarter. The idea is positive reinforcement. The less damage that happens the more money I split with them. It works for the most part. The other benefit is that people look out for those new guys who dont care and weed them out of the company before real damage occurs.

Our profit margins are too tight to have to replace a $50 bar every week. Either positive or negative measures should be used to get this guys head on straight. Guys shouldnt have a buy a new bar for the saw for at least a year if they are properly trained to use and maintain their equipment.

You should start a training program with your crews and get this guy on the right page or ship him off to some hack removal company, I am sure you have at least one in your area.

Cheers,

 

[gr8scott72]

I have offered a raise in the past if an employee learned to do something better. I explain how they are costing me money; in one case costing me more per day than I was paying them. I have seen some amazing turnarounds come from helping my employees understand more about running a business. They usually say something like "Wow! How do you ever make any money?"


Mr. HE

Tell them that their raise is effective when they are.

 

[joesawer]

I got a worker that seems to bend more bars than i know what to do with, Any secrets on the best way to straighten them?

It depends on how bad they are bent. A slight bend can be straightened on a press or something that simulates one. There is an art to hammering one out on an anvil. But either way it is difficult to get it back straight unless it is a very slight bend just in front of the case.
If it is bent in front of the case from lifting sideways on the saw while cutting or from being pushed sideways while in the cut. You can leave the bar fastened to the power head, make a cut into a log and push it the other way until it is straight.
If the bar bends very much it stretches the steel on the outside of the bend and is not worth fixing.
Before I spent much time, effort, or money on fixing bars I would spend it on finding out what he is doing to bend the bars and try to fix him. If he is bending bars he is probably doing other things that are not good for a saw.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.