Bought a new Poulan Pro 5020 to see what there about

[LegDeLimber]

Woodheat, the first pic is a spot that looks like the cylinder wall is peeling.
in the second pic looking in the exhaust port, I was trying to see if I could see any more problem spots.
the others were trying to get an overall look at the piston top.

on the compression gauge, yeah it's a case of outrunning any losses or leak rates at that slow speed.
the gauge is showing about 95 now and was a something like 103~104 at the highest reading
before running the saw.
I felt a bit concerned at the numbers,
but would like to compare readings to a known good gauge.
I have tried 2 different gauges in the compression rig
and they both seem to show the same numbers.
I wouldn't expect a drop for any reason that's good news though.

I haven't made the run to box store for warranty fun yet,
so I may try to get some better shots of the saw before I take it in.
I just tried it freehand for the first pics and as is evident the hand shake is a problem
along with the guessing at the focus point.

Was thinking of looking around for some way to build up a rest for the camera,
that would let me half press the shutter with a false target and then reliably
reposition and take the shot in the saw.
figured I could take a small rod and use to establish the distance to saw interior
and set a target at equal distance to use for locking the focus.

Another problem is my depth of field at that short range, but if I pull back to get better DOF
I lose all the detail, Camera is a 5m pixel, so it has its limits.
I think these old Panasonics can shoot some darn nice frames
when you get a feel for them.

 

[Chris-PA]

Well, if it's losing power that could be many things, but if the chrome is peeling there then that's more serious, especially combined with the power reduction. Peeling chrome certainly won't heal if that is what it is. But a 9% (worst case) change in the compression reading is probably within the margin of error for that measurement.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

i would like to see one ported work but no one has done one yet.

 

[cobey]

bought a pp5020av... started
it in the stores parking lot.... the salesman was afraid i would start it in the store..first time I
was ever warned about that:tongue2: :smile2: read this whole thread since yesterday
learned some stuff. i got to get it into some wood soon!

 

[Brian B.]

The only thing odd I noticed yesterday with mine- it was the first time I ran it, and it wasn't my fuel in it. So I open the tank, dump out the questionable fuel in the gravel- out plops my tank filter/ pickup. Apparrently the pick up wasn't connected tightly from the factory- but its all good, it on tight now- like I said, ran like a top.

Saw has a nice tone at idle I really dig it.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Saw has a nice tone at idle I really dig it.

I noticed that too.

I was comparing the husky 450 IPL and looked at one up close and they share some things :msp_wink:. Cylinders are different.
Plus the 5020 is branded all over with the husky emblem.

 

[Brian B.]

I had made the leap of assumption that the two were essentially the same saw as far a scritical components- not so huh, well regardless, a fine saw.

 

[cobey]

i ordered two good chains from chainsawr today :msp_biggrin: runs like a 290 (orange and white) at least what i remeber
of running a 290. the stump was oval 23 x 19 or so when I was done i cut it off the ground (a few inches) it cut threw pretty good,
was torquey enough, this is far from hard wood but it gave it a good run in.

 

[LegDeLimber]

better pics of bad spots

managed to get a couple of better shots of the cylinder wall.

looks pretty rough in there.
Judging from those lines,
I'd say the ring's been skipping over a lot of dingle berries.
Looks like it missed a cleaning step before being plated.

I used a large straw to gauge the distance to try setting a target for the camera focus.
In pic 1050707, the redto a couple of marks in the oil
that were left from trying to see if I could feel the spot with the straw.

edit: I'll try to post up several of the photos again. Oct - 25- 2014

 

[zogger]

managed to get a couple of better shots of the cylinder wall.

looks pretty rough in there.
Judging from those lines,
I'd say the ring's been skipping over a lot of dingle berries.
Looks like it missed a cleaning step before being plated.

I used a large straw to gauge the distance to try setting a target for the camera focus.
In the second pic, the arrows point to a couple of marks in the oil
that were left from trying to see if I could feel the spot with the straw.

that looks really bad

 

[Chris-PA]

managed to get a couple of better shots of the cylinder wall.

looks pretty rough in there.
Judging from those lines,
I'd say the ring's been skipping over a lot of dingle berries.
Looks like it missed a cleaning step before being plated.

I used a large straw to gauge the distance to try setting a target for the camera focus.
In the second pic, the arrows point to a couple of marks in the oil
that were left from trying to see if I could feel the spot with the straw.

Eewww.

 

[Modifiedmark]

managed to get a couple of better shots of the cylinder wall.

looks pretty rough in there.
Judging from those lines,
I'd say the ring's been skipping over a lot of dingle berries.
Looks like it missed a cleaning step before being plated.

I used a large straw to gauge the distance to try setting a target for the camera focus.
In the second pic, the arrows point to a couple of marks in the oil
that were left from trying to see if I could feel the spot with the straw.

Hard for me to tell but if that spot is bare, I would say its time to use that 2 year warranty, that is if it hasn't been leaned out and partially scored.

I really doubt that one spot would cause a major compression drop.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I ran my new 5020 today with new 550 545 and a 346 NE and rebuilt 353 I just finished yesterday. All 16" 3/8 set ups. Good time and nice mini gtg talk.

Well what is the opinion?

Being on the $200 under budget like some are. Best bang for the buck right now IMHO on a 50cc saw. I would take the one I have and paid $165 for over a $400 290 JMO.

If I was going to the woods to cut firewood all day. I would have no problems taking the clamshell 5020 with me.
You can feel the extra 1lb or so PHO weight when switching off saws with those on hand that day. But if your only saw you will never notice it. Plus side it is still almost a pound less then the 290 weight PHO and only 6.5cc smaller.



Plus side they made it so easy to work on compared to the double the price white clamshell ones.

Now long term who knows not out long enough and the cylinders are different then the 450 husky.

 

[LegDeLimber]

better focus

looked through the pics again and realized I missed a better shot.
{note to self, don't sort pics when tired.}
I may try to play with lighting source/type and shoot some more frames
and try to include some other angles.

You can get a better look at shadows from the debris in this frame.
the pink loops surround just some of the easier to spot lumps.
green loops are areas that look to be peeling.
red arrows point to top edge of peel out that runs along a ring mark.
green arrows are a line that covers several lumps/damage spots.

and a duplicate frame without markings, in case I obscured something in the first one.

 

[Brian B.]

How many good experiences vs how many bad experiences with the 5020?

Seems to me to be a fine saw.

"Haters gonna hate"....

 

[zogger]

looked through the pics again and realized I missed a better shot.
{note to self, don't sort pics when tired.}
I may try to play with lighting source/type and shoot some more frames
and try to include some other angles.

You can get a better look at shadows from the debris in this frame.
the pink loops surround just some of the easier to spot lumps.
green loops are areas that look to be peeling.
red arrows point to top edge of peel out that runs along a ring mark.
green arrows are a line that covers several lumps/damage spots.

and a duplicate frame without markings, in case I obscured something in the first one.

I believe it is safe to say that there is just no dang good.

 

[cobey]

do you have a warranty?? factory or box store?

 

[Chris-PA]

I believe it is safe to say that there is just no dang good.

There ya go gettin' all technical again.

 

[LegDeLimber]

Saw is a Lowes item, (hopefully) it should be good on the warranty.

might try getting prints of a couple of the pics to take with me.

 

[brokenbudget]

Saw is a Lowes item, (hopefully) it should be good on the warranty.

might try getting prints of a couple of the pics to take with me.

if they see you've opened it up they might be inclined to void the warranty. best just complain about the comp getting low and loosing power.