Brute Force owb

[NSMaple1]

I also haven't heard about Mahoning. It is good you got good service from them, and I think is the first story like that I have read about. Can't say I've read yet of service like that from the bigger OWB names out there, or of satisfactory warranty fixes. The most I think I've seen is an OWB owner having to get a local welding shop come out & do some welding, and the OWB company paying the welding bill. I think that was the result of lots of complaining, too. When it gets to that point, usually there are more welding jobs in the future of the unit.

 

[hupte]

Just the mileage, which was 225 round trip. I spent $675 to overhaul the firebox, 2 new middle shaker grates, new door, gaskets for door and ash door, solenoid for draft flap on blower (said it was partially sticking at times) and a new aquastat. Checked all welds in fire box with a spray die and uv light. They filled the furnace before they left for the day. Gave me 4 quart bottles of rust inhibitor on top of the 4 they put in while filling the furnace. That is service!

so you spent $900 total? for basically new grates, door gaskets, solenoid, check the welds, and 8 quarts of treatment? do I have that correct? did they do any welding, metal cutting or metal fabricating?? also was the boiler leaking before they came out?

 

[derrek_j]

the door blower has a couple of flaws. number one you gotta pull the motor during the summer, not a huge deal, but still. also as the cold air comes into the hot firebox moisture condenses on the door. which in turn drips down and finds its way out the bottom of the door seal. resulting in a pinhole which overtime gets bigger and bigger. then eventually the door wont seal and you'll need to replace the bottom lip that seals to the door. also its really hard to clean out the bottom corners of a round firebox. so you have to do one of 2 things. make a tool that scrapes the ashes off of the inside of the burn chamber just below the door. and also the back wall opposite of the door. or I have heard that some ppl will line those 2 areas with oily newspaper. then once they get covered in ashes the paper won't burn up. so the oil protects the boiler. that is why I like the hoss stoves. easier to clean and the air is injected under the fire.

Why would you hvae to pull the blowers for summer time?

Personally I like the round firebox due it obly having 3 welds in the entire firebox. The bf has 2 blowers, so it blows under the coals as well.
Cleaning doesn't bother me much, as I only do it in the spring, and I can spend a little time on something once a year

 

[derrek_j]

I appreciate the dialogue guys

 

[hupte]

Why would you hvae to pull the blowers for summer time?

Personally I like the round firebox due it obly having 3 welds in the entire firebox. The bf has 2 blowers, so it blows under the coals as well.
Cleaning doesn't bother me much, as I only do it in the spring, and I can spend a little time on something once a year

because the blower is basically outside in the moisture all summer long. even though it is covered on the top and sides it still is in 100% humidity when its raining. I have to pull mine out every year. the guys who don't pull em every year replace the blowers about every 3 years. but I have seen them go out after sitting in the door for one summer. I am with you I like the round burn chamber too. round is structurally stronger than square. from a welding and fabricating standpoint. but the thing is owb's don't get hot and crack (unless they are stainless) they corrode. either from the ashes (which become acidic when exposed to water) sitting against the firebox or from lack of maintaining your water treatment. with a round burn chamber you just have to scrape the ashes off the front just below the door, which is difficult without the right tool. I find a thin sliver of wood. my hand gets hot though. the back wall I use my custom rake. here is my home made owb.

the hoss stoves only have 4 welds in the burn chamber. plus they are 1/2 inch thick. I'm not a dealer or anything. just a guy who has done quite a bit of research. your doing the right thing staying away from cb. they are way overpriced. and not that good of quality. the brute force is a much better choice than cb.

 

[derrek_j]

My blower on the Pacific Western lasted at least 5 yrs before it went out last year. But I think you are right, better to pull them off.

I guess bf is going away from the dayton blowers, they are sayimg that they arent holding up to the heat as well as some others. They are also going to 1 larger blower on the newer models instead of the two.

Well I told the dealer that I am going to take the 3500. Might be getting a little bit better of a deal on it because a guy I work with might be getting the 5800, si they will knock some off of both stoves if we buy them together.
Hopefully this week I will be getting the 3500. I will either add to this post or start a new one after I start burning in it for a review of sorts.

On a side note, anybody know of anything good that you could repurpose an old owb?
I half thought about making it into an indoor burner for my garage, but it would take up alot of space, or maybe a smoker? I ddon't know yet.

 

[derrek_j]

I also feel that with a round firebox you won't have the deposits sitting except in the very bottom of the firebox, unlike square firboxes or cbs design

 

[derrek_j]

Made new thread with a review