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Tom Dunlap

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Since I have very limited experience in buckets I'm trying to find out some information from the bucketeers. According to ANSI z133, 6.2.2 bucket operators have the option of either a full body harness and shock-absorbing lanyard or body belt and lanyard.

What's being used?
Why a harness vrs. saddle?
Anyone have personal or anecdotal experiences with falling out of a bucket?

Thanks,

Tom
 
Originally posted by Tom Dunlap
Anyone have personal or anecdotal experiences with falling out of a bucket?
Well Tom, I came close once, ~30 yrs ago. boom cable failed (don't ask me how), and bucket hit ground. I unclipped lanyard and ran clear. Haven't gotten in a bucket since except to do training.

Always feel safe enough w snug saddle and lanyard; don't see the added advantage of a fullbody harness except to ensure that operator does not have saddle slack for comfort. But I'm no expert on this as you know:rolleyes:
 
most bucket boys overhere wear a harness with rear anchor point and a seat belt type lanyard..but as with a lot of health and safety stuff, genrely nobody wears a harness or saddle
 
weve got full body harnesses on all our trucks. I think the idea behind it is if a fall should be taken, w/ a top mounted attactment, the body will not be broken over at the waist causing potential back breakage and the fall will be taken in the torso area.

We only began using them about 8 yrs ago when a leveling cable broke in a truck. The op didnt fall but did have the sh*t scared out of him. It took him about 2 yrs to get back in a bucket truck.

As for the lanyard, two have shock lanyards and two have non-shock.
 
Seems like a fall from bucket would be more slack in lanyard, for sure no over the head support(so increased fall factor) to point of support lower than body connection with slack in line; also fall more likely to be upside down?
 
I started out using the full body harness with dorsal attachment. Switched to a simple waist belt about a year or two ago simply for the convenience. I've always used a shock-absorbing lanyard, too.

The June 2004 issue of Arborist News had an interesting article about Suspension Trauma.

Here's a link for more info for those with plenty of spare time.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/research/crr_pdf/2002/crr02451.pdf
 
As usual I'm going to be the odd man out on this because we use an Elliott boom with a metal cage, instead of the more conventional fiberglass bucket, which I personally don't like because they are too confining and closed in for me.

To answer your question we still use a body belt with a shock absorbing lanyard. We fasten this to the top rail of the cage with one of those jumbo sized carabiners that will follow your body movements as you work and step around from side to side. I haven't made the switch to a full body harness because having the lanyard fastened up between my shoulders and slapping me in the back would drive me nuts. If I had someone else other than myself or Axman jr. running this truck I would make the switch to a fall arrest just to cover my butt in case their was an accident.

In regards to slipping out I almost took a tumble out of it. It was one of those dewey, wet October mornings. I leaned forward to make a cut, my feet slipped on some pieces of small deadwood that were on the floor of the cage. I was able to catch myself before I got to far forward or otherwise I would had first hand knowledge on how a shock absorbing lanyard felt. Other than that I've never come close to falling out of a bucket or in my case a cage.

Larry
 
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Originally posted by Tom Dunlap
Since I have very limited experience in buckets I'm trying to find out some information from the bucketeers. According to ANSI z133, 6.2.2 bucket operators have the option of either a full body harness and shock-absorbing lanyard or body belt and lanyard.

What's being used?
Why a harness vrs. saddle?
Anyone have personal or anecdotal experiences with falling out of a bucket?

Thanks,

Tom

heres an anadote about falling out a bucket. wifes farther fell out one 25-30 years ago broke hip had to have it replaced. all was fine for about 20 years then it deteriated and he waited several more years to have it replaced when he did go in to have it done he died operating table. so whatever you need to wear i say wear it and be safe the fall may not kill you but you may die no the less.
 
When I use a bucket I wear my Mentor harness with a Screamer atteched to a 3-strand lanyard. with 75' of 3/8 line to rap out if there is a problem. The line is a one time use gig.
 
I often climb out of the bucket, so I use my climbing saddle. I also use my lanyard and keep it short as possible.
The truck came with a full body harness, which I assumed was to keep you from sliding out of the saddle in the event of an inverted fall.
 
we have to wear a full harness with shock absorbing lanyard behind your neck.all perfectly useless in emergency,it will still snap your neck or strangle you.im with guy much safer tied in.
 
Wiley answered with what seemed no one else mentioned - a line up there with you so if the control fails (like Hi-Ranger's pneumatic pistol-grip sometimes does, especially with twig build-up and such) it's a safe way down. It's a few weeks of frustrating slivers in the groin if one has to "shimmy" down the boom and the risk of sliding-off while doing so is high.

Annual State inspections of cable support, hydraulic leaks, or controls including pumps and valves for certification aren't mandatory, then owners sometimes just let it go to work and keep the fluid levels up. Sometimes a newby might even add a gallon of hydraulic fluid when the manual indicates POWER STEERING FLUID and that afternoon in the heat someone's going to get a surprize or a hastened job site when the crew's been bangin' out lot's of work from location to location and someone forgot to drop the outriggers and you're up to 72 feet swinging to the other side when the truck starts to tilt. Pucker-up that bung hole, it's quite a ride.

You'll get used to it Tom, perhaps suggesting from here you get the "suspenders to add that extra bit 'o safety for yer old spine, just in case. Some days the bucket's a great place to watch the world from. Even climbing the bigger tops, it's a good place to save energy when you leave the bucket to climb that last 20 feet.

Trust in mechanics and keep sure the crew keeps things under watchful eye and the shop is an important a place as the tie-in points when you're up 60 feet. Just like helicopter maintenance for a life flight or news crew.
 
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