Im looking to buy a CB I found a used one a 04 model and there asking way to much in my opinion $5000 it's a 5648 model what is a realistic price for this? Also I heat 3500 sq. Ft would a 5036 be big enough I'm also looking at one of those it's only 5 yrs old.
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chiefs584ever
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He seems a bit high on the older model unless it comes with about a mile of the pex tubing for the underground runs.
In all seriousness, I would not want to go much over 2g for a 12 year old stove.
In all seriousness, I would not want to go much over 2g for a 12 year old stove.
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If you are going to buy it for 2,000 make sure there are no leaks. A welder friend of mine is not impressed by CB. You may end up having 5000 into it.
I'd stay away from CB they are overpriced, 1/4" steel, and single welded. check out these units. 1/2" thick firebox. double welded. more solid and longer lasting design, and cheaper than CB. http://www.findhvacdealer.com/tennessee-hoss-outdoor-wood-furnace/
chiefs584ever
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I would stay with CB or Hardy before I EVER went with an unknown. I have had a CB for years and no issues. I would never be afraid of their simple design.
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StihlKicking
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^this^
I can personally testify to the quality of hardy's. Plus you can get a brand new one for close to what their asking for this used one. I don't know anything about the Hoss heaters apart from what i have read in forums but a lot of what people say about them isn't good. I don't have personal experience with CB's either but I know they have a good reputation.
Just my 2 cents - i wouldn't waste the time moving & installing a 12 year old boiler if it was free - Let alone 5 g's for it - Save your money, buy new or as close to it as possible. Just banging this thing around moving it - Bad idea.
NSMaple1
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I would not pay any more for a used OWB than I could sell it for for scrap. Less a bit for expense & aggravation to get it to the scrp yard.
I would not pay any more for a used OWB than I could sell it for for scrap. Less a bit for expense & aggravation to get it to the scrp yard.
Frogfarmer
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Where are you located?
husqvarna257
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I just got the Central Boiler E 1450 this year due to recommendations of other owners and no bad reports on them. I love it, easy to operate and I don't use my propane boiler at all. That being said I saw the have the Classic Edge brand new starting around $7000 no way I would spend $5000 on a used one. Also the EPA got in on wood boilers and they are regulated so the old boilers are not sold any more. I am not sure about getting one used. Not sure what your local laws are like but if you have houses close by make sure it's legal. Nobody should be able to tell you what you can put in but it takes one pissed off person to rat you out
CentaurG2
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I think 5k is pretty close to what that 5648 CB unit cost new but I don’t think they make that model anymore. New stuff (I think) is all new EPA and multi state compliant. This could be why the asking price for the old school stuff is so high. Also, it might have sat empty for years. Do you have some history on the boiler?
A 12 year old CB that has been used for 12 years, even properly maintained, will be pretty tired. The fire box will probably be like Swiss cheese. Good news is you can send them back to CB and have them rebuilt. If you are in a state that does not have any outdoor boiler regulations or you are in a state that is attempting to put regulations on them and you want to get one grandfathered, it might be something to consider if you want the old school. Otherwise, I would go new. Good luck with your choice.
A 12 year old CB that has been used for 12 years, even properly maintained, will be pretty tired. The fire box will probably be like Swiss cheese. Good news is you can send them back to CB and have them rebuilt. If you are in a state that does not have any outdoor boiler regulations or you are in a state that is attempting to put regulations on them and you want to get one grandfathered, it might be something to consider if you want the old school. Otherwise, I would go new. Good luck with your choice.
Ikeholt
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I'll agree age is important with somethings, race horses and whiskey for sure. However you can buy a new OWB and end up with a lemon that only lasts a couple years. I have 2 central boilers, one is 20 years old and the other is 16. I see no reason they won't last another ten years. Part of it is just luck, but I see nothing wrong with buying used.
Johnny Yooper
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CB5648 owner here on 12th season, operating year round since day one. I perform a thorough cleaning each fall, checking complete interior for any corrosion or other issues, complete with pics for the file. Latest cleaning shown below. Swiss cheese? Hardly.
CentaurG2
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You seem awfully proud of that boiler. I was proud of our CB too, until it sprang a leak mid heating season on its 14 year. Hoped it was just a pin hole but the welder who patched it found the firebox so thin it just blew a new hole every time you tried to tack a piece into it. Eventually got some bubble gum to stick but the patch still wept. Ran it weeping for the rest of the season and had it rebuilt. Yup, monitored the water better than a treatment plant and even did the ashtrol bit. Scraped down the firebox and coated it with fluid film at the end of each heating season but it did little good as it rotted out from the waterside of the firebox. I think these machines have a longer life expectancy if they are run continuously rather that shutting them down in the summer. We still run a CB but I don’t think I would ever buy a used one especially one 12 years old.
Johnny Yooper
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I'm proud of my woodpile. I'm satisfied with my boiler. Wonder if you have one of those earlier CB's.....a friend has one a year or two older than mine and said mine has a different pipe exit in the back that had been redesigned to mitigate likelihood of water entry and eventually corrosion.....he had a leak in the water jacket in that area and ended up with a fairly large repair plate he welded on, couple years now and still holding. Seems every make and model out there can have their strong and weak points. I had the same thought about longevity by running continuously......that was my second thought; my first one was not having to pay the profane man for heating hot water from spring through fall.
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