NO! CERTAIN STATES SUCH AS CT. NE. AND MASS. HAVE THEIR OWN PROGRAMS. I WAS IN THESE AREAS AWHILE BACK 98/99 FOR THE ICE STORMS THAT HIT. I TALKED TO SOME OF THESE STATE CERT, ARBORISTS AND GAINED INSIGHT ON THEIR REQUIREMENTS. THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!!!! SKILLS TESTS, TREE ID , DIAGNOSIS, GENERAL KNOWLEDGE, ETC... THESE MEN/LADIES ARE THE REAL MCcoy!! NOT SOME PAY ME AND ILL CERTIFY YOU PRIVATE ORG. THAT REQUIRES TESTING THAT IS ALL MULTIPLE CHOICE!!! LIKE I SAID THEIR LITERATURE IS GREAT BUT THEIR CERT PROGRAMS ARE A MON$Y MAKIN BUNCH OF ?@#$. I KNOW MOST WILL THINK THAT GOVT. GETTING INVOLVED IS BAD AND I AGREE BUT WHEN A PRIVATE ORG. RUNS ITS SELF SUCH AS THE ISA, CORRUPTION WILL PREVAIL, LIKE PEOPLE CERTIFIED THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A TREE. ATLEAST STATE TESTING PUTS US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE(like a CDL). I DONT KNOW BUT THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY OR THIS TRADE UNDER THE ISA`s WATCH IS GONNA LOSE CLIMBERS RIGHT AND LEFT, HOW MANY KIDS GRADUATING HIGHSCHOOL WANT TO BE CLIMBERS TODAY, IN PA(ABIG 0) HOW ABOUT SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS!!!!! DOUG, LXT