Chasing Frances

[xtremetrees]

I will have to link up with someone somewhere.
I just enjoy learning another climbers way. I have done trees so many way that its the only way i find the work challenging anymore. The storm will present more challenging trees. Why cut a tree in a lot of itty bitty pieces when you can get it down in say 1 cut. Thats why they call me tarzan. King of the rope man.

 

[TreeJunkie]

Rocky,
I'm not too sure where exactly he is at right now, but i'll be in touch w/ him tomorrow.
So u saying your stock full of help?

I'm not really familiar w/ what it is treeslayer did last year. Fill me in. Is this the same project JPS was involved w/ last year? He told me a bit.

 

[TreeJunkie]

I hear ya rock...

 

[xtremetrees]

your talking split 1/2 mil 4 ways after 2 months?

Do you guys wear camel back water bottles aloft.

Ill bring the hand saw just in case.

 

[TreeJunkie]

Rock do you know
Ed Bingle? I met him in Pittsburgh,,,I'm pretty sure he's from around your way, does some sub work and a liitle for himself. I've thought about giving him a ring.

 

[bottlefed89]

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Well guys, be careful and post a lot of pics. I've never worked a storm of this magnitude before, some tornadoes, and ice-storms, but never anything this big, wish I could be going.

 

[xtremetrees]

Roger that rocky,


I just want to climb.

 

[xtremetrees]

2 cranes and Peltor

3mil at 4 a day =1.324%
Hey the physics appreciation thread is helping out

 

[treeslayer]

I wanna climb, but most work is cutting, cutting, cutting.

I would be interested in running a crew,
I had a great run in isabel, and learned a lot. I will need a local company to work thru, the money is in MOVE THE CRANE!

 

[Guy Meilleur]

Originally posted by treeslayer
I wanna climb, but most work is cutting, cutting, cutting

At first, true. But the important work is first treeage, finding ways to salvage broken trees and train them to grow strong. Trees that are slightly uprooted can be reanchored. Yes, even big ones.

Vital is the immediate followup, selling stormproofing service on trees so the fearmongering butcher contractors will not sell people on sending in hired guns to remove good trees instead of strengthening them.

Often the stormproofing work can be part of the cleanup--it's all remediation after all--and so be part of the insurance claim. "Look at that scratch on the fence--must been done by a branch from that tree! So pruning and root repair on that tree is storm work. That obviously makes it an easier sell.

 

[treeslayer]

the best method of treesaving is telling all the paranoid homeowners that trees are supposed to sway in the wind, and an assesment and pruning is all that is needed.
I have seen, (and taken down too many) healthy trees simply because the client were scared of tall trees within range of the house.

not this time.

 

[a_lopa]

 

[MasterBlaster]

Clear the structure. Clear the driveway. Move on.

 

[treeslayer]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Clear the structure. Clear the driveway. Move on.

Dont forget to clear the clients wallet out of all that green tree paper!

 

[xtremetrees]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Clear the structure. Clear the driveway. Move on.

MB could I borrow your crane. I'll armorall the tires, keep it looking shiny and new?

 

[MasterBlaster]

My crane? Haha! I wish!

Well, maybe not really...

 

[Guy Meilleur]

"Clear the structure. Clear the driveway. Move on. "

I agree this is the best strategy for the cutandrun outoftowner who wants to skim the creamy work. But if you have roots in the town and want to help the homeowner add to the claim legitimately (and add to your income substantially), you can add to the jobs by working on the second-priority trees.

Sure that means that you'll need to come back after all the houses and driveways are cleared, but before the claim is finalized. Not hard to say "We'll be back in 2-3 weeks for the less hazardous work". Tree owners are gonna be with that.

This worked well after Andrew and Fran and Hugo and Floyd and Isabel. It also builds solid client and neighborhood loyalty. This is key for the business owner's league but not for the hired gun's; I don't pretend to tell youse guys how to do your bizniss.:alien:

 

[John Stewart]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
Sorry Guy, but from what I've learned in the last few years I gotta say you are out of your league on storm work. I've worked for you during storm cleanup and I've also worked with pros doing storm cleanup. Your advice might apply a month or so after the storm, but there will be several weeks of just clearing the broken trees. Besides, your words do not match your actions. you talk tree preservation but you seem quite willing to whack healthy trees simply because the homeowner is willing to pay for it. Peddle it elsewhere, please.

Ouch!

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Guy Meilleur
"Clear the structure. Clear the driveway. Move on. "

I agree this is the best strategy for the cutandrun outoftowner who wants to skim the creamy work. But if you have roots in the town and want to help the homeowner add to the claim legitimately (and add to your income substantially), you can add to the jobs by working on the second-priority trees.

Second priority trees don't mean squat when there are untold numbers of FIRST PRIORITY trees that need to be dealt with, FIRST!

Cut and run, out of towner, HA!

 

[Guy Meilleur]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Second priority trees don't mean squat

There are a whole lot more 2nd priority trees than there are fallen trees.

They mean squat to the tree owner and they mean longterm income to the business owner. A little client relations can go a long way.

2nd prioritrees will be there long after the cleanup crews have left town, unless their owners are talked into whacking them while the saws and cranes are there. After price gouging, that's the worst crime storms breed.

"Ouch!" ?? What? Hey I got bit by fifty mosquitoes while digging for root collars this afternoon. What's one more?