Clearance Extreme--Cedar Lost?

[treeseer]

The 90-3-90 rule will be included in ISA's Glossary of Arboricultural Terms, now in print, and an article on it will be in the next Arborist News. (If you see any idiotic quotes ascribed to me, they're all typos) I thought it should be left out cuz it's too easily abused and calls for big wounds that will never seal and cause hazards down the road. Too often counterproductive in the long run, like the 1/3 rule for reduction cuts. But it's in there, o well .

Brett, there's a lot of discussion in the appraisal world about what REAL value is. I've seen 8 or 10 definitions; what's yours?

 

[Treeman14]

Brett, there's a lot of discussion in the appraisal world about what REAL value is. I've seen 8 or 10 definitions; what's yours?

There is no such animal. It doesn't really matter anyway. The REAL value is what the other guy is willing to pay.

 

[clearance]

Now I'm back, was killing trees all weekend. Suck it up, quit snivelling, go in the house and make us some coffee lady, B.F.Deal. Was that the response you expected Treeseer? Did anyone find out if the tree was actually on her property? And if so, who gives a flying fek. $5grand? Put down the crack pipe.

 

[Stumper]

Clarence, You are soooooo sweet.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Hahahaha!

Thank you sir! May I have another?

 

[treeseer]

That's My Boy

Suck it up, quit snivelling, go in the house and make us some coffee lady, B.F.Deal. Was that the response you expected Treeseer?"

Yup, we sure missed ya, buddy-ro. Your response was the same as the nc clearance crew; barely looked over their shoulder at her as she yelled. Arteries bulging in her neck, they kept cutting away. Not that any of that affected the appraisal report, strictly business you understand.

You'll be interested to know that the person in the bucket with the saw in his hand will be Defendant #1, should negotiations fail and a suit is filed. After that it's foreman, supervisor, contractor, utility. The gang will all be there, goodness forbid.

I'm not sure how it will settle, I'm outta there. But I'm guessing <$3k won't do it.

Brett you are exactly right.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I say take down the lines, and let the tree grow as nature intended it. :angel:

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Clearance, gotta love ya buddy

 

[Old Monkey]

I have to admit I've been lurking this thread waiting for Clearance to chime in. He never disappoints. :blob5:

 

[a_lopa]

that lady should have her power cut off till she cools her heels. :angel:

 

[treeseer]

that lady should have her power cut off till she cools her heels. :angel:

On the other hand, maybe that crew of treecutters should have their pay cut off until they learn how to manage trees. Then they would learn the real truth in their "Less is More" mantra

"I can't tell from the pics but was there enough interior foliage in order to trim properly." Excellent point Mike, but a closer look at the pic--and experience being in lots of cedars--shows that there were other many more tree-and-wire-friendly targets than leaving those shredded stubs inches from the trunk.

'Less is More" backfired here; by exposing the trunk and imbalancing the tree, they made it a higher risk than a lighter touch would have.

 

[a_lopa]

I'm not sure how it will settle, I'm outta there. But I'm guessing <$3k won't do it.


if theres money changing hands which i doubt very very much,you wont be"outta there" so quick.

 

[treeseer]

if theres money changing hands which i doubt very very much,you wont be"outta there" so quick.

Sorry lopa I'm not the owner or a lawyer so I don't share in the settlement. i would make a friendly wager on the side with you if I could tho. You'd hafta be omniscient to know how this will settle, from your view from the other side of the globe.

 

[a_lopa]

id say i may still have an inkling more on what will happen coming from a R.O.W background.

im not saying your there for the money.

do you have pay-pal for the wager

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I bet they used 'lectricity to call Guy!

Is the inference here that if ROW trimmers do proper work, according to industry standards, that there will no longer be electricity?

Because I'm pretty sure even Clearance could be trained, in time, to do work to industry standards and still allow electricity to flow. In fact, there are crews that work in my area that do great work, and look, I still have lights!
My guess is that, just like with other commercial tree trimmers, once a guy starts working to industry standards, it doesn't take any longer or cost any more to do the same work.
On the other hand, I do appreciate the problem the utilities face. The work is horribly boring, almost like working on an assembly line. Keeping a skilled worker is next to impossible. So they face a lot of turn over.
The first thing they need to train the ROW worker is not to kill himself. Teaching about trees comes later, if at all, and by then he's often off to another job with better pay and more satisfaction.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Big Orange does a decent job around here. Not to say they leave the trees looking all that nice but they've def got their guys doing better work than I've seen in ohter areas or here in the past for that matter. They are making proper, clean cuts and generally don't take anymore than needs be. In the city itself here all the clearance work is done by the urban forestry dept and they do a really nice job of preserving tree health and aestetics while keeping the juice flowing.

 

[clearance]

Mike- in regards to your line about how even I could be trained, and that clearance work is horribly boring. First of all, the utility company and my boss are happy with the work I do, so after making them happy I couldn't give a fek what you or others think (although I do consider it in all other areas of treework, just not utility). Secondly, in line clearance work, while it may be repetetive, because of the constant electrical hazards and the attention that has to be there, it is rarely boring. A Lopa is right, people that snivel and complain should have thier power cut for a few days, that would stop the whining. The whole bleeding heart, treehugging, doogooding save the seals b.s. has gone way to far, when it come to trees vs. powerlines the powerline should always come first.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I was never bored working ROW. It was kinda fun!

 

[treeseer]

I was never bored working ROW. It was kinda fun!

mb I agree, utility work is not the tedious hell suited only for short-term workers that Mike describes. I know several talented folks who are content with the work long-term.

lopa no I got no paypal; I'd hate to take your money anyway. Let's jsut bet a pint of Foster's and hope we meet someday.

 

[a_lopa]

i wont be drinking that horse pisz thats for export,

mike does have it right,not many row workers stay in it due to lots of reasons.

let me know what happens here guy.