Climbing Line Setup?

[Nailsbeats]

Currently I have an 80' and two 120' climbing lines, all have rope snaps on the ends tied with double fisherman's, I climb with a splittail, blakes, and micropulley.

I was wondering about getting a climbing line with a spliced eye at the end and running a biner through it. The question is, would this alow me to unclip the biner and pull the spliced eye end through the crotch when changing tie in points, then just clip back in and advance my blakes to take up the slack?

If it would work, I think it would be fast because then you wouldn't have to undo the blakes and pull the length of the rope through everytime you swung over to another lead that you now want to tie into.

Would this work or is there another way?

 

[TreeBot]

Other than for saftey/rescue purposes, the whole point of the split tail is not having to re-tie your friction hitch. A spliced eye means not having to tie re-tie anything. You can usually pull them through but on a narrow fork it's pretty easy to get one stuck.

 

[Magnum783]

Nails if you keep at it you are going to discover the wheel!


I've been climbing on such a system for 15 years or so but no spliced eye....I use knots. My entire climbing system uses no spliced eyes. I don't buy 'em and don't need 'em! Mucho overrated, IMO.

There may be a hitch to your idea though. Trying to pull a spliced eye through a tree crotch is going to get hung up every now and then.

This is how I do it. I don't use a rope snap I use a captive biner. This works great because that sometimes is the shortest part of the rope thus meaning less pulling. Using a fisherman's with a biner is the cats meow. Not work untieing just take biner out and pull. Just how i go at it.
Jared

 

[Blakesmaster]

This is how I do it. I don't use a rope snap I use a captive biner. This works great because that sometimes is the shortest part of the rope thus meaning less pulling. Using a fisherman's with a biner is the cats meow. Not work untieing just take biner out and pull. Just how i go at it.
Jared

That's pretty slick, but you still have to retie your fisherman's. Much easier than a blakes though! I have a similar set up except I have one of those plastic rope saver jobbies tied into my fisherman that the biner clips to. I've just been trying to use large crotches and un'hooking/rehooking often as I move about the tree just in case my biner gets stuck in the crotch I'm not too far away. Works ok on trim jobs but I like your idea for the far swings. I'll have to remove that plastic jobby tonight.

 

[(WLL)]

the eye is far better than any termination knot,and will pull threw most crotches.DO IT NAILS!!! just keep it outa tight crotches and you will love it. only down-side is cost. Nails to answer your ? the eye works great with a blakes, pulls threw any crotch i put er, and dont hurt your face when yer tryin to toss it over head and miss. i like everything spliced. EVERYTHING!!

 

[moray]

i like [U]everything[/U] spliced. EVERYTHING!![/QUOTE]

Everything but your saddle bridge...:)

 

[Nailsbeats]

the eye is far better than any termination knot,and will pull threw most crotches.DO IT NAILS!!! just keep it outa tight crotches and you will love it. only down-side is cost. Nails to answer your ? the eye works great with a blakes, pulls threw any crotch i put er, and dont hurt your face when yer tryin to toss it over head and miss. i like everything spliced. EVERYTHING!!

That looks like a nice set up right there. Does it work well for bodythrusting and footlocking? If so, I may give it a go. Looks like the best of everything, with the spliced eye quick TIP changeover, the swivel, the pulley close to the hitch. What kind of biner and pulley is that? Petzl swivel right? Whats that hitch?

 

[oldirty]

That looks like a nice set up right there. Does it work well for bodythrusting and footlocking? If so, I may give it a go. Looks like the best of everything, with the spliced eye quick TIP changeover, the swivel, the pulley close to the hitch. What kind of biner and pulley is that? Petzl swivel right? Whats that hitch?

thats why ive been telling you to move that pulley out onto your splittial. i dead end my line to a biner on my bridge with a bowline. if i need to pull the line through a tight crotch i untie it but if i need the weight to advance its on the biner. i also climb with a bullet throwbag for more weight when needed. no need to screw around with the snaps as they dont pull out of the tree very well. i dont know....i like them for fliplines though.

captive eye biner for the splittail and the swivel captive eye biner to deadend to is the bomb for using on the bridge, they mate so well barely any clashing when you are hanging.

(this was my system before i went to the hitch climber with a prussic)

 

[oldirty]

That looks like a nice set up right there. Does it work well for bodythrusting and footlocking? If so, I may give it a go. Looks like the best of everything, with the spliced eye quick TIP changeover, the swivel, the pulley close to the hitch. What kind of biner and pulley is that? Petzl swivel right? Whats that hitch?

if you like WLL the thrills set up you should look into the hitch climber. i'll take a picture of it for you tom'w.

 

[Nailsbeats]

Yeah OD, thats one thing I like about my current setup is the rope snap throws really nice. What is a swivel biner? A biner that has a built in swivel? Seems to me you could use a bowline on a rope snap to deadend, then you could easily untie it or have good throw weight.

That picture would be great, whatever is the shiznitz right now, that's what I want.

 

[oldirty]

Yeah OD, thats one thing I like about my current setup is the rope snap throws really nice. What is a swivel biner? A biner that has a built in swivel?

i'll give them that they do throw well.


and lol. yes i believe that a swivel biner is indeed a biner with a swivel built into it!

i'll take a pic of that too tomw unless you got a catalogue handy and look into the biner section. i think i got mine from wesspur.

 

[Nailsbeats]

Smarta$$, lol.

 

[oldirty]

tell you the truth i sometimes dont feel like going back to the truck for the troline so i use my heavy trobag on the biner and i can already throw my rope well so i just get into the tree like that. so instead of fighting a tangle of troline i just get into the tree and advance with the trobag(which is always on my belt). unless its a big tree prune or setting high rign i try not use it.

 

[Magnum783]

Nails,
If you still thinking splice might I recommend sending it to someone like NIck from WI he will make them quite small like the one on WLL's set up. I have one line that he spliced really small so I biner fit tight this does two things for you. It keep your biner righted. It also makes it pull through crotches easy. I am not sure he still does splicing but I would assume he does. He was a member on this site for quite sometime. I bought a splice from somewhere and thought it would be a great idea to get a thimble put in it. Not such a good idea they put one of those big triangular ones in it and it is huge catches on everything. Not cool. Look into that if you are thing splice. I think they are the way to go just like the advantages that come with tieing the fisherman s. It is just six of one half a dozen of the other. IMO
Jared