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My uncle recently bought 200 acres in northern PA. He's a college professor that knows nothing about working with his hands. I mean ZERO.

I went out there for whitetail this past season and cut up some standing-deads for next year's burn in the wood stove with my 064 and 026. So my uncle decides to come with me to help out and says he wants to bring his saw along too. I didn't even think he knew what a saw WAS, so I was quite surprised to hear this.

Without asking me (or anyone else with a brain), he had gone down to the local shop to buy a saw some time ago. They sold him an MS211. Wow, OK......"ya done good with that buy", I told him. Nice job. At least he didn't show up with a pink plastic saw from Toys-R-Us.

We get the truck out to the tree line and I ask him if he's all filled up and good to go. He assures me he just topped off. So we spend all of the next 10 minutes or so bucking and chucking till we get the bed full of rounds. Then we go back to the barn to dump the load.

At that point, I was filling up my two saws to get ready for round 2 and I figured let me check the little 211 to see if she's empty. Open the oil plug and it's bone dry.

Actually, if I remember correctly, I think a small puff of white smoke deployed itself upon my removal of said cap. Jesus Christ........."Uncle Andy where's your bar oil? You're bone dry and it looks like you might have been dry for the last few cuts too."

Ready for this one boys?

His response: "No, I mixed the oil in the gas and look, the gas tank is still pretty full."

I said "No, not the 2-stroke mix, the bar lube."
He says "Well here's all the stuff he gave me at the shop" and shows me a milk crate with 2 spare chains, a bar wrench, 2-stroke oil, and a big ole jug of bar lube.
"Uncle Andy, this is your bar lube that you need to fill that front tank with so your chain is lubed."
"Oh, I didn't know what that bottle was for. I just thought the oil in the gas was all I needed."

Jesus Christ.

"Uncle Andy, how long have you been running this thing bone dry?"
"Ahhh about a tank or two."

OK so I didn't have to replace the bar. Luckily it wasn't showing any signs of scorched paint on the bar or nuthin and everything looked OK on inspection.

I then sat him down for a half hour and taught him everything he needs to know about safety and maintenance, for which he thanked me genuinely and I made him do some test cuts in front of me to test his new found knowledge. Would have been nice if the dealer taught him all this so he wouldn't hurt himself.

Oh well. Hope all of you's enjoyed the reading. :laugh:
 
glad he nor the saw was hurt, now he has the knowledge to at least keep it going. It brings back memories of my grandpa teaching me. :blob2:
 
Good for you helping him out before he cooked the b/c. Even better that you helped him out on the safety part of it.
 
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

Well now he at least has the knowledge to do the job safely and correctly. Wisdom only comes with experience. He'll get that with time.
 
Mike,

Good job and great post. Be advised, Uncle Andy ain't the first to do that. A good dealership would have taken the time to teach Uncle Andy about his saw. Take the chain back and tell them you want two new ones on the dealers ticket.

Repped.
 
Mike,

Good job and great post. Be advised, Uncle Andy ain't the first to do that. A good dealership would have taken the time to teach Uncle Andy about his saw. Take the chain back and tell them you want two new ones on the dealers ticket.

Repped.

Bull spit. The dealer owes him nothing.
 
Bovine excrement, oh yes he does!

:popcorn:

Ever hear of personal responsibility? Every saw comes with an owner's manual, and there is a plethora of information on every corner regarding saw usage. Not to mention, this isn't rocket surgery. Caps are clearly labeled. Hell, the dealer even sold him the oil. Under what delusion are you existing to think the dealer owes him for what is under no uncertain terms a customer ####up?
 
Ever hear of personal responsibility? Every saw comes with an owner's manual, and there is a plethora of information on every corner regarding saw usage. Not to mention, this isn't rocket surgery. Caps are clearly labeled. Hell, the dealer even sold him the oil. Under what delusion are you existing to think the dealer owes him for what is under no uncertain terms a customer ####up?

Good dealerships will take the time to go over the saw, point out the important things in the owners manual, ask how much experience the buyer has using a saw. You don't just send them out the door with a boxfull of bar oil, mix and a couple spare chains. You want your customer to come back and spread information about quality dealerships.

Like I said, bovine excrement!

:laugh:
 
Good dealerships will take the time to go over the saw, point out the important things in the owners manual, ask how much experience the buyer has using a saw. You don't just send them out the door with a boxfull of bar oil, mix and a couple spare chains. You want your customer to come back and spread information about quality dealerships.

Like I said, bovine excrement!

:laugh:
How do you know they didn't? How do you know this guy didn't just say "that's all right, I've got it." At what point does shop's responsibility end? Do they owe him a new saw if he fells a tree on it? Do they owe him hospital bills if he hurts himself?

Your view is just indicative of more entitlement mentality that is a disease in this country, and may likely be its downfall.
 
Bovine excrement, oh yes he does!

:popcorn:

The dealer is guilt free. He can't warrantee stupidity.

In all likelyhood the dealer explained things to the buyer, but the buyer simply didn't absorb it.

It happens all the time. Some guys are handy with tools, and others can't even figure out how to hold them.

Bob
 
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