Mitchell
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quick search and i found no recomendations for cutting roots or stumps. I usually save some junked chains for this but I was wondering if others use carbide chains or cut off saws for this type of dirty operation.
cutting roots or stumps
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robert f
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I find a sawzall really handy for roots.
Sprig
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For roots I have heard that a buff dude with a sharp axe is often faster.
Hey Bubba! Izzat U!!!!!!!?????????????
Stumps..........hm, discused much me think, time for some basic research, sry.
Hey Bubba! Izzat U!!!!!!!?????????????
Stumps..........hm, discused much me think, time for some basic research, sry.
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barrow your neighbors saw to do it with.
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Roots and stumps
Yes a good sharp ax works for me some of the time and a backhoe works all of the time.
Yes a good sharp ax works for me some of the time and a backhoe works all of the time.
DOLMARatOs
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You could always employ a little chemistry and practical knowledge.
You would be amazed at the power of fertlizer to move mountains......or stumps.
I prefer a sawzall or a small backhoe. Local rental yard has the tow-behind units that work pretty well.
You would be amazed at the power of fertlizer to move mountains......or stumps.
I prefer a sawzall or a small backhoe. Local rental yard has the tow-behind units that work pretty well.
Mitchell
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weatherby guy
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barrow your neighbors saw to do it with.
hahahaahahahaha.............fantastic.........lol
GASoline71
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Don't bother with carbide chain on stumps. Not needed and is very costly... when ALAPing stumps, I just use whatever is on my saw at the time. I don't have time (well actually I'm lazy
) to switch to different chain combos just to cut stumps.
If you are going back to cut a bunch of stumps after you have already done the fallin' and stuff... I would use a full chisel, or semi chisel chain to do the job. They cut well in dirty conditions.
Be prepared to do some chain sharpenin'!!! Have plenty of files handy! Cuttin' stumps is tuff on chains.
Gary
) to switch to different chain combos just to cut stumps.If you are going back to cut a bunch of stumps after you have already done the fallin' and stuff... I would use a full chisel, or semi chisel chain to do the job. They cut well in dirty conditions.
Be prepared to do some chain sharpenin'!!! Have plenty of files handy! Cuttin' stumps is tuff on chains.
Gary
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Sprig
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Don't bother with carbide chain on stumps. Not needed and is very costly... when ALAPing stumps, I just use whatever is on my saw at the time. I don't have time (well actually I'm lazy
If you are going back to cut a bunch of stumps after you have already done the fallin' and stuff... I would use a full chisel, or semi chisel chain to do the job. They cut well in dirty conditions.
Be prepared to do some chain sharpenin'!!! Have plenty of files handy! Cuttin' stumps is tuff on chains.
Gary
Agree 100%! Using a carbide chain is an expensive option and just as useless cutting rocks and carp as any other and near impossible to re-sharpen without a diamond set-up.
I was serious about an sharp axe btw
shawn.m
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have pulled 60+ stumps out in the last 9 months - backhoe works best. even better is to knock tree over with backhoe in the first place.
I have been told to use the drill holes in stump after cutting, fill with diesel, let sit for couple days then burn works well.
one of my neighbors puts charcoal briquettes on the top of the stump then puts a cut out 55 gallon drum on it. Lights it and lets it simmer for a couple of days.
I would like to hear real world experiences from people who have just put nitrogen fertilizer on stumps and then covered them with dirt.
I have been told to use the drill holes in stump after cutting, fill with diesel, let sit for couple days then burn works well.
one of my neighbors puts charcoal briquettes on the top of the stump then puts a cut out 55 gallon drum on it. Lights it and lets it simmer for a couple of days.
I would like to hear real world experiences from people who have just put nitrogen fertilizer on stumps and then covered them with dirt.
Al Smith
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My favorite method of stump removal is with the use of a D7 Cat,with the tree still intact.
As far as sawing them out,I have an old geardrive saw that has 1/2" chipper chain that will chew through any thing.
If you want to use fire,drill some holes in the subject and over a period of time pour diesel fuel in them.After it's been saturated,built a fire over it.While it's burning the mosquites will all go over and visit your neighbors 'cause it smokes a lot.
Another method is to pour saltpeter in the holes,helps with the burn.
If you want nature to do the job,pour powdered milk in the holes,cover with a tarp.The mushrooms will in time eat it all gone.
As far as sawing them out,I have an old geardrive saw that has 1/2" chipper chain that will chew through any thing.
If you want to use fire,drill some holes in the subject and over a period of time pour diesel fuel in them.After it's been saturated,built a fire over it.While it's burning the mosquites will all go over and visit your neighbors 'cause it smokes a lot.
Another method is to pour saltpeter in the holes,helps with the burn.
If you want nature to do the job,pour powdered milk in the holes,cover with a tarp.The mushrooms will in time eat it all gone.
Mitchell
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swapping chains
thanks guys for the advice. I suspected as much; otherwise you would see them more. I was not keen on carrying a extra large single purpose saw around anyways. Like I said I have lots of chains to use but generally don't bother swapping and regret it... Perhaps I'll make a mobile with all of em
I'm going to find some stumps to try some of the previous suggestions: I'll let you know how they work when I get the chance.
Don't bother with carbide chain on stumps. Not needed and is very costly... when ALAPing stumps, I just use whatever is on my saw at the time. I don't have time (well actually I'm lazy
If you are going back to cut a bunch of stumps after you have already done the fallin' and stuff... I would use a full chisel, or semi chisel chain to do the job. They cut well in dirty conditions.
Be prepared to do some chain sharpenin'!!! Have plenty of files handy! Cuttin' stumps is tuff on chains.
Gary
thanks guys for the advice. I suspected as much; otherwise you would see them more. I was not keen on carrying a extra large single purpose saw around anyways. Like I said I have lots of chains to use but generally don't bother swapping and regret it... Perhaps I'll make a mobile with all of em
I'm going to find some stumps to try some of the previous suggestions: I'll let you know how they work when I get the chance.
GASoline71
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Good luck! let us know how it works out for ya!
Gary
Gary
Austin1
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I could'nt agree more! I have used carbide but it was work chain, I would'nt pay the money for it myself I would rather take the five minutes to sharpen it. But if someone else was paying for it I would use carbide, it is slow but works good. But hay a file cost's a buck!Don't bother with carbide chain on stumps. Not needed and is very costly... when ALAPing stumps, I just use whatever is on my saw at the time. I don't have time (well actually I'm lazy
If you are going back to cut a bunch of stumps after you have already done the fallin' and stuff... I would use a full chisel, or semi chisel chain to do the job. They cut well in dirty conditions.
Be prepared to do some chain sharpenin'!!! Have plenty of files handy! Cuttin' stumps is tuff on chains.
Gary
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Why not just cut the stumps up higher and sell the stumps to the customer as an add on to be ground out by a stump grinder?
Mitchell
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stump grinder or grind a chain
Actually, I have never been asked to grind out a stump once I mention it would be at a minimum 100 dollars.Thats the rate with no kickback that would apply if I gave the job to a stump grinder friend. The universal lack of interest in stump grinding has lowered my interest in purchasing a stump grinder to almost zero. Perhaps as you suggest I could recoup the purchase price if I sold it as a package deal. Right now if it is listed as a seperate line item it is rejected out of hand.
As an accomidation to folks I try to cut them as low as possible usually below grade, thus the constant quarry work!
Actually, I have never been asked to grind out a stump once I mention it would be at a minimum 100 dollars.Thats the rate with no kickback that would apply if I gave the job to a stump grinder friend. The universal lack of interest in stump grinding has lowered my interest in purchasing a stump grinder to almost zero. Perhaps as you suggest I could recoup the purchase price if I sold it as a package deal. Right now if it is listed as a seperate line item it is rejected out of hand.
As an accomidation to folks I try to cut them as low as possible usually below grade, thus the constant quarry work!
piney1
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How does the fertilizer method work that was mentioned and is there any other ways to make them rot faster?
Al Smith
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Depends on the species of tree.A maple will self destruct in a few years.An oak seems to last forever.
piney1
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The stumps I need to get rid of are ponderosa pine and I can't use the burn method because of location, and if there is some sort of chemical that would promote rotting that would be perfect.
