Dangerous species

[CATreeTops]

That's another thing. I have never put saw to a Euc. For me to try to advise you would be ludicrous.

I admire your enthusiasm and wish I could find someone close to me with your zeal to work with. If I were closer and the work was within my scope I would try to work the ground for you and advise you.

Again, good luck!

Much appreciated! You guys online are more invaluable than I can adequately state.

 

[jefflovstrom]

No, absolutely not my man. I should have cross referenced your post to see if an image came up that looked like the tree in question. There are so many versions, I just didn't think you'd guess what I'm dealing with without a picture. Good job though! You absolutely nailed it, and thank you.

Do you have any tips on avoiding problems climbing this tree by chance? Much appreciated!

Just get a good TIP. If they were mine, I would remove them. Have they been topped in the past as so many here have?
Jeff

 

[jefflovstrom]

TIP is 'tie in point',
Jeff

 

[CATreeTops]

Just get a good TIP. If they were mine, I would remove them. Have they been topped in the past as so many here have?
Jeff

No. These trees haven't had any trimming at all from what my eye can tell. I don't see any cuts looking from the ground - no cuts high up anyway. It's on my residential property, so my guess is the homeowners before me just never made it a priority. That top branch is pretty precarious looking. I'm curious to know if there is an age of branch that is more like to snap or not, but if I were to guess from this tree, it seems almost indiscriminate. It's snapped stuff up high and low. I guess my worry is making sure my TIP is secure, so that the entire structure doesn't fail. I think I have to make sure I'm secured to the main stem and not rely on any branch strength alone. I doubt the tree baring disease or erosion will "choose" to give up the main portion of the tree...

I will at some point remove the lower, more leaning trunk. My more immediate goal is to trim the end to reduce the liability to the trunk failing which would be bad... The trunk is has a lot of diameter/wood, so I have to get used to rigging lighter stuff. Imagine a large log rolling into oncoming traffic below. Wow. As I learn what's involved in some jobs I see how much trust people put in the undocumented help they are inclined to hire.

 

[ropensaddle]

Hiring wetbacks is treason imo.

 

[CATreeTops]

Hiring wetbacks is treason imo.

Nice. If you turn on the news you know what kind of sympathetic horse**** a lot of us have to listen to.

 

[ropensaddle]

Nice. If you turn on the news you know what kind of sympathetic horse**** a lot of us have to listen to.

Yeah I know, Gays and libs took over the media, it sucks as much as they do! I miss Bah Bah black sheep and The rifleman days, now its all weirdos and queers.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Yeah I know, Gays and libs took over the media, it sucks as much as they do! I miss Bah Bah black sheep and The rifleman days, now its all weirdos and queers.

Sure miss 'Pappy' and 'Lucas'!
Jeff CTSP

 

[derwoodii]

Sos NQR is just Not Quite Right I saw a lot of poor limb unions and elongation with little timber taper, typical odd ball structure that garden planted Euc sids can do.

Your trunk base pic shows co-dominant trunks with a very low & tight V union "Not good" & not uncommon in iron barks.
Get your TIP good and have some fun climbing and practice rigging and up tree cuttin without taking big pieces learn slow and have someone on the ground please.

In the end I see a doomed tree "sorry" they can be nice but more often are not. Looks like you got some good newbies growing well nearby so tree recruitment is good.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?img...ance+tree+examples&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbs=isch:1

 

[CATreeTops]

Sos NQR is just Not Quite Right I saw a lot of poor limb unions and elongation with little timber taper, typical odd ball structure that garden planted Euc sids can do.

Your trunk base pic shows co-dominant trunks with a very low & tight V union "Not good" & not uncommon in iron barks.
Get your TIP good and have some fun climbing and practice rigging and up tree cuttin without taking big pieces learn slow and have someone on the ground please.

In the end I see a doomed tree "sorry" they can be nice but more often are not. Looks like you got some good newbies growing well nearby so tree recruitment is good.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?img...ance+tree+examples&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbs=isch:1

Excellent. Thanks so much. This tree has what you're describing - what look like poor attachments. The base almost looks like two trees the crotch is so low. In fact before you posted that link I hadn't paid it much mind other than the lean it has. Generally they're a liability - the lower one for sure; and they're not required for aesthetic reasons, or property value.

I do have a buddy willing to drag brush for me part time, so I'll recruit him before I cut. Thanks again.

 

[beastmaster]

I like climbing eucs. Most are pretty strong especially if you stay close to the trunk. Once you start cutting everything changes. There are so many variables involved in each cut. The bigger the branch the more things that could go wrong. Only experience can teach you what to be on the lookout for, and what precautions you must take.
Have fun climbing those eucs, but maybe you should learn to work on smaller safer trees. Granted tree work isn't rocket science, but you pay for mistakes with property damage, broken bones, or a grounds man or yourself dieing.
An old boss of mine use to tell me,"they're are old tree trimmers, and dumb tree trimmers. But no old dumb tree trimmers." The school of hard knocks in this business is hard knocks.
Find some one to teach you. Get a job as a grounds man and work your way up the ladder.Keep climbing. Be safe. Beastmaster.

 

[beastmaster]

hiring wetbacks is treason imo.

imo2

 

[pbtree]

Yeah I know, Gays and libs took over the media, it sucks as much as they do! I miss Bah Bah black sheep and The rifleman days, now its all weirdos and queers.

 

[VA-Sawyer]

I'm suprised nobody is screaming about his plan to climb the tree with 'spikes and lanyard' for pruning work.

 

[CATreeTops]

I'm suprised nobody is screaming about his plan to climb the tree with 'spikes and lanyard' for pruning work.

Who's planning that..?

 

[VA-Sawyer]

Sorry, my bad. I misread the end of post #19. I thought that you were saying with only spikes and a lanyard as expenses that you had nothing to loose trying to save some money.
I now understand that you were saying the "cheap" treeworkers are the ones with spikes, lanyard and not much to loose. I again apologize for my previous post thinking you were spiking a prune job.

Good luck on that tree and please be careful!
Rick

 

[CATreeTops]

Sorry, my bad. I misread the end of post #19. I thought that you were saying with only spikes and a lanyard as expenses that you had nothing to loose trying to save some money.
I now understand that you were saying the "cheap" treeworkers are the ones with spikes, lanyard and not much to loose. I again apologize for my previous post thinking you were spiking a prune job.

Good luck on that tree and please be careful!
Rick

No worries. I appreciate the feedback!