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stumpy66

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I always find pricing difficult particularly, getting a price the domestic customer will like is not really a problem must getting the most possible out of it often is...is there anyone out there gonna divulge how they price for domestic work? i am in the Uk but it will be interesting to see how the rest of the world see's this....also sub contract to the trade...does anyone who subs their stumps out to a Tree Stump Specialist (such as ROBERTS (www.stumpgrinding.eu.com) have any criteria or unwriten/spoken rules when pricing/subing jobs out? interested to have any input..
 
search of the archives will provide a lot of info on pricing plans. Consider that pricing per inch of diameter is really unfair to yourself- as diameter doubles area and volume quadruple. I usually price "by the job" accounting for species and access issues as well as size. For a quick reference over the phone I tell people a price per inch of CIRCUMFERENCE at ground level-if over 100 inches in a single stump the price per inch goes up.
 
yer...thats kinda how i do it......just see in my mind what it is worth to me or how many days it might take.....go from there....some companies seems to have a hard and fast rule for pricing...i have a guide price....but every situaton is different so don't see how people stick to a fixed per inch price....
 
have you fitted Patricks silly multi-tip to your grinder ,i hope you haven't .Vermeer have several machines that have needed to be repaired due to the multi-tip system
 
Rolla, i guess you got that from the ad on the website...that need updating....But actually....i Bought a new wheel for my dosko 961..and it has made a huge difference....the original wheel was badly designed, there was no allowance for the slew in the cut..all the teeth were positioned the same on the wheel (only 4 pockets bless it)..so it now cuts a whole lot better than it used too....So The multitip for me was a good investment. There were some design issues which made my mind up not to use them on a bigger machine..now i have the vermeer as well...i have no need to feel like changing to any other tooth...the vermeer cuts well and lasts..(My experiences with arborplant/patrick/david have not been good either). But can it make a difference..yes..especially with the new design....would i trust my vermeer with it...no.....would i go for it on my dosko again...probably...
 
I price everything by the job based on an hourly rate. I have an hourly rate for tree companies and contractors and an hourly rate for homeowners. Chances are, I'll never see that homeowner with one stump again so I price them a little higher. I give a good price break to tree companies and contractors. Also, I add a little for drive time/mileage with gas hovering around $2.89/gallon and all the stop and go city traffic I have to sit in.

The $/inch thing has never worked for me. It is not uncommon for me to walk with $300-400 for a 30" stump when the $/inch deal would have paid less than $200. I go high with my email and phone quotes and have surprised more than a few customers when I handed them an invoice for less than what had I quoted. Then, I hit them up for references and hand them a stack of business cards. If I blow through the job in record time, I give the customer a discount. I'm in this business to stay and gouging customers is not a good longterm plan. As a one-man show, I do not like to do haul off and price it accordingly. There are just too many $8/hour Mexican yard men to jack with hauling chips so I let them do it.

I charge a premium for my service but I provide a better service than most other grinders. I grind deep and take out the whole mound, not just the stump so the area is properly prepped for sodding or landscaping. It takes me longer but, so far, I've had very few call backs and you won't see green shoots sprouting out of one of my jobs after a few weeks. You get what you pay for...

One last thing. My grinder gets torn up just the same on a cheap job as it does on an expensive job. I'd rather sit at the house and do maintenance on my equipment than ruin a good set of sharp teeth on a $50 stump. Like I said, I'm in this for the long haul and breaking even or, worse, losing money is no way to run a business.
 
stumpy66 said:
Rolla, i guess you got that from the ad on the website...that need updating....But actually....i Bought a new wheel for my dosko 961..and it has made a huge difference....the original wheel was badly designed, there was no allowance for the slew in the cut..all the teeth were positioned the same on the wheel (only 4 pockets bless it)..so it now cuts a whole lot better than it used too....So The multitip for me was a good investment. There were some design issues which made my mind up not to use them on a bigger machine..now i have the vermeer as well...i have no need to feel like changing to any other tooth...the vermeer cuts well and lasts..(My experiences with arborplant/patrick/david have not been good either). But can it make a difference..yes..especially with the new design....would i trust my vermeer with it...no.....would i go for it on my dosko again...probably...


The long awaited smaller Green teeth are on test in the UK at present it might be worth having a go with these on your machines. Vermeer sell Green teeth in their stores in the USA, so are well tested and with no change to the original cutter wheel. could save you time and money.
 
Im currently running Greenteeth in the straight, outboard positions on my RG1631 wheel. They cut very well (they even sound different going through the cut)but I may go back to the Raycos. The Greenteeth are very agressive and will jerk the whole machine forward if you are not careful. Any faster cutting due to the more aggressive tooth has been nullified by my slower traverse speed. Also, they have managed to vibrate loose every nut, bolt and screw on the machine.

I like being able to turn the teeth and get more life out of them-especially in the straight, outboard position which takes the most abuse. In fact, the Raycos in the other positions still look great. Lastly, I wouldn't run them in all positions on lower horsepower machines-these teeth need as much hp as they can get.
 
smaller Green teeth are on test in the UK at present it might be worth having a go with these

cheers Liston...will keep my eye open for them....i need to get a few sets of teeth might give em a try if i can find some....christmas is coming.....i will put some on the list.
 

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