Do the 026 and 026 Pro use the same carb?

[FNG]

Saw an ebay auction that said no, they use different carbs but most advertised units don't specify.

I have an 026 Regular (not Pro) that finally, once and for all, is getting the attention it needs, which per diagnosis begins with a carb swap (only running with choke open, starting there).

Question: Do the 026 and 026 Pro use different carbs, or is the carb the same between them?

 

[pioneerguy600]

They use many different models of carbs but they all interchange between the two saws. Whatever carb a 026 runs will run a 026 PRO saw. The WT 194 is considered the best two adjust screw carb for them, the WT 22 is also a fine carb for them both.

 

[Dan Forsh]

026 Pro seems to be just a sales designation in the US. Here in the UK we only ever had the 026, but it seems that we got (certainly the later ones) a saw with an adjustable oiler and a decomp valve as standard, which seem to be the only two things I have ever seen anyone raise as differences between your standard 026 and 026 Pro models.

 

[pioneerguy600]

026 Pro seems to be just a sales designation in the US. Here in the UK we only ever had the 026, but it seems that we got (certainly the later ones) a saw with an adjustable oiler and a decomp valve as standard, which seem to be the only two things I have ever seen anyone raise as differences between your standard 026 and 026 Pro models.

And an improved/bigger surfaced airfilter with a different tank vent, shorter on the PRO to allow for the wider airfilter frame.

 

[Dan Forsh]

And an improved/bigger surfaced airfilter with a different tank vent, shorter on the PRO to allow for the wider airfilter frame.

To me those were just updates to the 026 (I assume you are talking about the change to the sintered tank vent, compensator carb and air filter to suit circa 1995?) I don't know of anything different on a saw called an 026 Pro

I have a very nice 1996 026 sat on my table right now and it has all those updates fitted to it.

 

[Stihlofadeal64]

Saw an ebay auction that said no, they use different carbs but most advertised units don't specify.

I have an 026 Regular (not Pro) that finally, once and for all, is getting the attention it needs, which per diagnosis begins with a carb swap (only running with choke open, starting there).

Question: Do the 026 and 026 Pro use different carbs, or is the carb the same between them?

Is it possible this carb you mention that has a problem needs a good cleaning and rebuild? I know a swap is easy, but sometimes a proper cleaning, rebuild and proper adjustment and you'll be on your way. The 026's generally had the carbs with no compensator tops and the slimmer filter style. The pro's had a compensating carb (snorkle top) and the wider filter as mentioned already in the thread.

 

[FNG]

Is it possible this carb you mention that has a problem needs a good cleaning and rebuild? I know a swap is easy, but sometimes a proper cleaning, rebuild and proper adjustment and you'll be on your way.

Given the economics of a swap in the year 2015, a rebuild just isn't worth my time.

Does anyone know if this carb will bolt onto a 026 regular (not an 026 Pro) without getting into 'mods' or anything creative?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STIHL-CARBU...461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c57f457d

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Given the economics of a swap in the year 2015, a rebuild just isn't worth my time.

Does anyone know if this carb will bolt onto a 026 regular (not an 026 Pro) without getting into 'mods' or anything creative?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STIHL-CARBU...461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c57f457d

You have to pull your air filter and see if your carb has the snorkel or not.(that is the round thing with an O ring) I would guess a straight 026 would not.

 

[Duane(Pa)]

here is your best bet:http://www.weedeaterman.com/product_p/wt-194-1.htm

 

[pioneerguy600]

Given the economics of a swap in the year 2015, a rebuild just isn't worth my time.

Does anyone know if this carb will bolt onto a 026 regular (not an 026 Pro) without getting into 'mods' or anything creative?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STIHL-CARBU...461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c57f457d

You would need to remove the snorkel top on the carb and replace it with the flat cover from an original carb so that the original 026 airfilter will fit on the carb. The cast projection sticking out around the H needle that has the red plastic cap on it needs to be cut down to fit inside a 026 airbox.

 

[FNG]

You have to pull your air filter and see if your carb has the snorkel or not.(that is the round thing with an O ring) I would guess a straight 026 would not.

OK now we're getting somewhere.

So the carb-variable between an 026 regular and an 026 pro is that the o26 Pro has this snorkel...

... whereas the 026 regular does not?

 

[FNG]

You would need to remove the snorkel top on the carb and replace it with the flat cover from an original carb so that the original 026 airfilter will fit on the carb. The cast projection sticking out around the H needle that has the red plastic cap on it needs to be cut down to fit inside a 026 airbox.

"Mods" are definitely not what I'm after here. Looking for a bolt-on and go that is a replacement for whatever I have on there.
Based on what I'm seeing, there is a majority of sellers of imported 026 carbs who just sell 026 carbs without being aware that there is a difference between the Regular and the Pro and they are not interchangeable. One single ebay seller seemed knowledgeable, who unfortunately does not carry the one for the 026 regular.

The net result is I ask sellers if their carbs fit a 026 regular and I get horseshit replies like this.

It is a replacement part. Please verify your used part matches this one and read the return policy before you bid on it, thank you. If it is not as same as your used part then please do not bid on it, it will not be replace.thank you.

 

[pioneerguy600]

here is your best bet:http://www.weedeaterman.com/product_p/wt-194-1.htm

Yes, one of the best carbs for the 026, more money but a known good carb.

 

[pioneerguy600]

OK now we're getting somewhere.

So the carb-variable between an 026 regular and an 026 pro is that the o26 Pro has this snorkel...

... whereas the 026 regular does not?

Yes that is correct, for the most part. There are likely a few real early PRO saws out there that may not have the compensating snorkle carb on them, seems Stihl always had a short run of saws they just used up existing stock inventory til it was all gone before using the new parts designed especially for the new models.

 

[Duane(Pa)]

There are few absolutes with a saw that old.... I was also thinking that a walbro cover may not fit on the zamma carb? IDK....

If you put a 194 on, the biggest mod you will be looking at, is sticking a foam ear plug in the air filter hole where the snorkel would have gone. (if it even has a snorkel?)

 

[FNG]

That is probably a mod I could handle.

There are few absolutes with a saw that old.... I was also thinking that a walbro cover may not fit on the zamma carb? IDK....

If you put a 194 on, the biggest mod you will be looking at, is sticking a foam ear plug in the air filter hole where the snorkel would have gone. (if it even has a snorkel?)

A foam ear plug is a mod I could handle.
So the carb in the ebay auction would fit either way, worst case scenario the snorkel needs to be plugged?

 

[pioneerguy600]

That is probably a mod I could handle.

A foam ear plug is a mod I could handle.
So the carb in the ebay auction would fit either way, worst case scenario the snorkel needs to be plugged?

Yes. plug the snorkle hole in the back of the filter, if it has the wider filter with the hole.

 

[Duane(Pa)]

That is probably a mod I could handle.

A foam ear plug is a mod I could handle.
So the carb in the ebay auction would fit either way, worst case scenario the snorkel needs to be plugged?

Not really.... I am talking about putting a 194 (without snorkel) on a saw with snorkel air filter. Go pull your air filter off and see what you have

 

[Stihlofadeal64]

Given the economics of a swap in the year 2015, a rebuild just isn't worth my time.

Does anyone know if this carb will bolt onto a 026 regular (not an 026 Pro) without getting into 'mods' or anything creative?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STIHL-CARBU...461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c57f457d

If I remember correctly I am not sure this carb will fit in the carb box area. The "horn" that encloses the adjustment screws and limiters may not fit inside the box. (I believe I tried this once and the area sticks out so far it would not allow the carb to go into the box area.). But my memory is not as good as it once was. The WT-194 is definitely the "go-to" carb for your saw. Pioneer guy has many more of these saws than me so he could probably clarify.

 

[Dan Forsh]

If I remember correctly I am not sure this carb will fit in the carb box area. The "horn" that encloses the adjustment screws and limiters may not fit inside the box. (I believe I tried this once and the area sticks out so far it would not allow the carb to go into the box area.). But my memory is not as good as it once was. The WT-194 is definitely the "go-to" carb for your saw. Pioneer guy has many more of these saws than me so he could probably clarify.

I think that looks like the same carb hutzl sells for 024/026. I put one on an 024 a while back and had to do similar to what Pioneerguy600 said earlier; changed the snorkel top for the flat top off the old carb I was replacing and then rather than mod the carb I trimmed out a bit of plastic inside the housing to allow the surround of the H needle to go in. Not too much trouble to get it to fit, but I'm sure someone buying one in anticipation of a straight swap wouldn't be too impressed. In fairness to the guy selling them in the link given in post #7, he does elaborate in his description that mods are needed to make it fit an 024/026 saw not previously having a compensator carb.