Dolmar 6100 vs Echo 620p

[fordf150]

Makes no difference one way or the other to me...BUT, PLEASE try that saw with a MM and tune. I don't believe you will want to send it down the road.

I'm not touching it....I am only going to use it for another couple weeks. As soon as the weather turns cold all the saws will be put away except my H models. Doesnt make sense to modify and void a warranty for 2 weeks worth of use

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

Makes no difference one way or the other to me...BUT, PLEASE try that saw with a MM and tune. I don't believe you will want to send it down the road.

EDIT: The fact that you've run your 620 in stock form and still have something good to say about it, amazes me. Like all Echo's, the 620's muff is stuffed up. Just getting rid of the 90* deflector plate makes a huge difference...you don't have to cut on the muff to see nice gains. The process (MM & tab delete) takes maybe 15 minutes. Turns a very good saw into a great saw.

You never give up... Ridiculous.

 

[Idahonative]

You never give up... Ridiculous.

Hey man, this isn't Socialist France. Opinions and input are still allowed even if you don't agree with it. Sorry...not sorry.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

Hey man, this isn't Socialist France. Opinions and input are still allowed even if you don't agree with it. Sorry...not sorry.

Blah blah blah...

I'm from France-> I'm obviously socialist-> Echo 620 is the best saw ever made. I love your logic, kid

Just to teach you something...opinions are one thing, facts are another thing.

Echo 620 is the awesomest saw, way better than any 60cc saw= YOUR (ridiculous) opinion.
Echo 620 is the same weight than a 15 Y.O. Husky 372xp and it's 10cc less= Proved fact (not just my opinion)

 

[Idahonative]

I love your logic, kid Just to teach you something...opinions are one thing, facts are another thing. Echo 620 is the same weight than a 15 Y.O. Husky 372xp and it's 10cc less= Proved fact (not just my opinion)

Just to teach you something, kid, my cousin has a 372xp. A MM'd and tab deleted 620p will out cut his 372...and it's lighter.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

Just to teach you something, kid, my cousin has a 372xp. A MM'd and tab deleted 620p will out cut his 372...and it's lighter.

And I'll probably find a cousin with a Wildthing who will outcut a 661 every day with a "42 bar. Keep dreaming

http://www.echo-tools.co.uk/index.php?id=248

http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/372-xp/965968308/

 

[Idahonative]

And I'll probably find a cousin with a Wildthing who will outcut a 661 every day with a "42 bar. Keep dreaming

http://www.echo-tools.co.uk/index.php?id=248

http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/372-xp/965968308/

I REALLY like my cousins 372xp. In fact, recently, I made an offer on one that an AS member was selling (he didn't take my offer).

Like SawTurd, you pay too much attention to what's on paper. Husky lists the 372xp at 13.9 lbs. But this is real world:


Also, do you cut with a dry machine? No fuel or oil?

620p:
fuel: 21.8 oz.
oil: 10.1 oz.

372xp:
fuel: 26.03 oz.
oil: 13.53 oz.

Fueled and oiled up, ready to cut, with the same b&c the 372xp will weigh 14.5 oz. more. So, no, they don't weigh the same in the real world.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

I REALLY like my cousins 372xp. In fact, recently, I made an offer on one that an AS member was selling (he didn't take my offer).

Like like SawTurd, you pay too much attention to what's on paper. Husky lists the 372xp at 13.9 lbs. But this is real world:
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Also, do you cut with a dry machine? No fuel or oil?

620p:
fuel: 21.8 oz.
oil: 10.1 oz.

372xp:
fuel: 26.03 oz.
oil: 13.53 oz.

Fueled and oiled up, ready to cut, with the same b&c the 372xp will weigh 14.5 oz. more. So, no, they don't weigh the same in the real world.

Of course, your numbers are right, any others are wrong. But I'm sure in your real world, this Echo is awesome. And there are unicorns and flying elephants.

More seriously, Echo did a great job with this saw. Imagine, a 60cc saw who's a hair lighter than a 20 year old 70cc design. Impressive!

 

[Idahonative]

Of course, your numbers are right, any others are wrong. But I'm sure in your real world, this Echo is awesome. And there are unicorns and flying elephants.

You: "Echo 620 is the same weight than a 15 Y.O. Husky 372xp and it's 10cc less= Proved fact (not just my opinion)"

Always gets a little dicey when we talk facts, doesn't it.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

You: "Echo 620 is the same weight than a 15 Y.O. Husky 372xp and it's 10cc less= Proved fact (not just my opinion)"

Always gets a little dicey when we talk facts, doesn't it.

Yeah, I know you hate facts. That's so sad...

 

[CoreyB]

I wish everyone would just send me every saw they argue over. I would be very happy

 

[fordf150]

I wish everyone would just send me every saw they argue over. I would be very happy

me too!

I dont see the point in arguing over it. Here are the facts...6100 $575 list but can be bought all day long for $550 or less. 620 is $649 list and can be bought all day from most decent dealers for $600-625. 6100 is 20% faster by my stop watch and costs at least $50 less. I can send you out the door with a 2260 for list price of the echo. I like the 620....honestly i like the 3/4 wrap more than anything but when cash has to exchange hands i am not buying the echo after running this one for the last month or 2. modifying a saw jsut to get it in the same ballpark as the others is not acceptable on a "pro" level saw. I dont want to hear about a mm and tune....AS users are .0002% of chainsaw users and 99% of average users dont want there saw messed with other than standard repairs. Based on out of the box performance the 620 should be a $500 saw with the wrap version coming in at $560 or so but thats not the case so here we are. Anyone interested in a 620PW with a bar adapter and a total super 20" bar. give or take 10 tanks thru it.

 

[BGE541]

me too!

I dont see the point in arguing over it. Here are the facts...6100 $575 list but can be bought all day long for $550 or less. 620 is $649 list and can be bought all day from most decent dealers for $600-625. 6100 is 20% faster by my stop watch and costs at least $50 less. I can send you out the door with a 2260 for list price of the echo. I like the 620....honestly i like the 3/4 wrap more than anything but when cash has to exchange hands i am not buying the echo after running this one for the last month or 2. modifying a saw jsut to get it in the same ballpark as the others is not acceptable on a "pro" level saw. I dont want to hear about a mm and tune....AS users are .0002% of chainsaw users and 99% of average users dont want there saw messed with other than standard repairs. Based on out of the box performance the 620 should be a $500 saw with the wrap version coming in at $560 or so but thats not the case so here we are. Anyone interested in a 620PW with a bar adapter and a total super 20" bar. give or take 10 tanks thru it.

Please PM me the # you have in your mind... I mean we have determined they aren't worth a frogs tits so I may take it

 

[166]

@fordf150, I really like the 6100 but have recently been looking into the amount of Chinese parts Dolmar is using in their saws. Do you have any insight on this?

I realize it is the future of chainsaw manufacturing, like Stihl's huge plant in China, but I just try real hard to avoid anything with "China" stamped on it.

The only thing that says china is the carburetor/intake which is from Zama. A very large percentage of saws today run Zama carbs which is owned by Stihl since 2008.

 

[Andyshine77]

everything uses chinese parts. never seen a percentage of content on dolmar or any other brand but cant imagine they have any more or less chinese parts than any other brand. At least they are still assembled in germany

For awhile some Dolmar lower end models like the 510 were made in China, and ps32 & ps35 are currently made in China.

Obviously we have a few Echo lover's and bashers here, that's cool. But fact this debate even exists says a lot about the Echo. Sure it weighs a little more, but it's less complex, easier to work on, and IMHO will be more reliable than the Stihl, Husky or Dolmar counterparts.

Now open up the muffler f150 and let her run, nobody cares about a worthless warranty, not that a mm would void that warranty anyway

 

[BGE541]

Of course, your numbers are right, any others are wrong. But I'm sure in your real world, this Echo is awesome. And there are unicorns and flying elephants.

More seriously, Echo did a great job with this saw. Imagine, a 60cc saw who's a hair lighter than a 20 year old 70cc design. Impressive!

In all honesty he did post #'s... I really like both but my ported 371 is WAY more fun to buck with, gotta love ported saws...

Oh and you may be extra surprised to know today I picked up a sweet 3/4 wrap 440...

 

[166]

For awhile some Dolmar lower end models like the 510 were made in China, and ps32 & ps35 are currently made in China.

Obviously we have a few Echo lover's and bashers here, that's cool. But fact this debate even exists says a lot about the Echo. Sure it weighs a little more, but it's less complex, easier to work on, and IMHO will be more reliable than the Stihl, Husky or Dolmar counterparts.

Now open up the muffler f150 and let her run, nobody cares about a worthless warranty, not that a mm would void that warranty anyway

Right now the only chainsaw coming out of there is the PS-32. The PS-35 has always come out of Germany and the PS-510 has switched back to Germany as well.

 

[Andyshine77]

Right now the only chainsaw coming out of there is the PS-32. The PS-35 has always come out of Germany and the PS-510 has switched back to Germany as well.

The 35 I looked at said made in China. I know the went back and forth with the 510 a few years ago.

 

[Yoopermike]

I will take the 6100 of people don't want it My other Dolmars could use another playmate. ( 6400,6100,5100,420,421,116si)
I mean if its such a POS, why not adopt it out to someone who will love it for the "POS" that it is and everyone will be happy?

 

[CoreyB]

me too!

I dont see the point in arguing over it. Here are the facts...6100 $575 list but can be bought all day long for $550 or less. 620 is $649 list and can be bought all day from most decent dealers for $600-625. 6100 is 20% faster by my stop watch and costs at least $50 less. I can send you out the door with a 2260 for list price of the echo. I like the 620....honestly i like the 3/4 wrap more than anything but when cash has to exchange hands i am not buying the echo after running this one for the last month or 2. modifying a saw jsut to get it in the same ballpark as the others is not acceptable on a "pro" level saw. I dont want to hear about a mm and tune....AS users are .0002% of chainsaw users and 99% of average users dont want there saw messed with other than standard repairs. Based on out of the box performance the 620 should be a $500 saw with the wrap version coming in at $560 or so but thats not the case so here we are. Anyone interested in a 620PW with a bar adapter and a total super 20" bar. give or take 10 tanks thru it.

I am interested.