Door knocking -Soliciting

[VL07]

Look man, Orkin had over 15,000 consumer complaints in Florida over a four year period and numerous lawsuits in that state, and yes, some of those had to do with soliciting...... BUT, their company policy is not to go door to door. I got that info right from the horses mouth. Also if their associates are caught going door to door leaving "cold call" advertising they say they fire them. The exact words of their rep was " I can't guarantee you there are not techs going door to door in Florida or any where else for that matter. We have had it happen. I can guarantee you it is not our policy to do so." So that is the way it stacks up cat.

Not some, but one. You got your info from Wikipedia...not a great place for facts. Did you really call Orkin? They have an A+ rating with the BBB.

 

[mckeetree]

You got your info from Wikipedia...not a great place for facts. Did you really call Orkin? They have an A+ rating with the BBB.

Nope. I got my info from the Orlando Sentinel and consumeraffairs.com. Don't know what you are talking about with the Wikipedia thing. 65,000 folks sued them in Florida in a class action lawsuit. Yes, I really called Orkin. The BBB is ridiculous. Some of the worst companies have good ratings there.

 

[BakerTREE]

Agreed about the BBB -- grr...arrggg. Then there's angie's list: You are allowed to buy your bad rep away and so many companies seem to do it. I'm not a big fan of any refs you have to pay for or be a member of ...a bit of bias is present far too easily.
And fwiw - door to door in dallas area and you WON'T be the first to be graciously providing unsolicited knowledge...grr...its annoying the prices around here :monkey:

 

[mckeetree]

I just don't know what to say...sorry for your anger.

You don't have to say anything. I am not the least bit angry. I just didn't want you to get too far off track there pardner.

 

[mckeetree]

Agreed about the BBB -- grr...arrggg. Then there's angie's list: You are allowed to buy your bad rep away and so many companies seem to do it. I'm not a big fan of any refs you have to pay for or be a member of ...a bit of bias is present far too easily.
And fwiw - door to door in dallas area and you WON'T be the first to be graciously providing unsolicited knowledge...grr...its annoying the prices around here :monkey:

BBB had it's day. You are right, any refs you have to basically "pay for" are not reliable. Door to door in Dallas used to be a good way to get your ass kicked.

 

[VL07]

BBB had it's day. You are right, any refs you have to basically "pay for" are not reliable. Door to door in Dallas used to be a good way to get your ass kicked.

You kick someones ass here in Florida, and that door to door owns your home. It's not the wild west down here.

 

[mckeetree]

You kick someones ass here in Florida, and that door to door owns your home. It's not the wild west down here.

Oh, I don't know. Tell that to Virgil Zatarain. He reported getting a genuine beat down back about 1992 after hurricane Andrew. This came after several threats and a mini-asskicking had already occurred from going door to door and he didn't get to own anybody's home. As I remember it the first problem that little entourage from Dallas encountered was some local boys that thought they owned the hurricane clean up in that particular neighborhood. After some Mexican looking guy tried to hit one of them with a pipe wrench they decided to hire on with a "big time" contractor doing some of the major clean up. Three weeks into that and not a single dime in pay brought them to the bright idea of knocking on doors. One of the first doors they knocked produced a man in his fifties or so that chased them off with a baseball bat. The next day this guy about forty told him "Just a second, we might need something" and the next thing he knows the guy is back with somebody else and together they administer an olde tyme beat down.

 

[treeserv.jax]

i simply just put a business card on the front door.and write down when i came by and the problem i seen.thats usually how i get calls then i give them an estimate my uncles company puts estimates on the business cards i think it usually shuns people away.

 

[tree md]

Wow, this is still going on???

Some neighborhoods are open to direct marketing, some aren't. Avoid the snobs, deal with the real people who are open to direct marketing.

Working people will not knock a clean cut, honest, working man who is trying to work for a living rather than set home and live on the government (our) dime.

I find a lot of work on rural properties. It is not uncommon for people to still seek work as a ranch hand buy stopping by and talking to owners where I live.


... I'm thinking I am going to put my ground hand out on the sidewalk wearing a billboard... :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[treeslayer]

Who kicks A$$ because somebody asks for work?

I've done quite a bit of door knocking all over the country during storms, sometimes people can get squirrely, but violent? never seen it from a HO.

I get a lot of work wherever I live that way. ride a good neighborhood, look for dead trees in front yards or bad hangers, and ride past most minor stuff. get one job for a low price, and I'm in.
I'm polite, honest, and tell people I'd rather look for work than sit on my butt waiting for what? Show em my insurance, copies of my license and my newspaper ad, and offer cheap quality work, cause I need it!!
lot of people respect that.

picked up a bunch of work this week doing just that. it's 5 deg, -20 windchill, and I'm headed to work, picked up half a dozen jobs in one neighborhood.

 

[familytreeman]

real scam

The real scam is that reporter girl trying to wear those pumps.

yeah LOL looking like a preying mantis

 

[familytreeman]

proper English

On the other hand, we know how to speak & write the English language.

This is a lesson yet to be learned by many, it seems...

 

[familytreeman]

Mn

I had a guy pull up my driveway on Sunday and hand me a flyer for an out of area company. I called him asked if he was one of those gaffing hacks from Minni-soda and politely told him where to go.

I think there are more arborists here in MN than over there in 'sconnie.

how many WI residents commute to MN all week? even Brett Favre gave it a shot LOL

and you guys truck your wood all over county/state lines... dont you know that spreads disease?

talk about hacks

 

[Corymbia]

I am a bum

I thought door knockers were all bums. Are you a bum?

I'd rather be a bum than be poor! Aren't bums poor?

So you take care of the trees and you ask the tree owner for the name of the neighbours so you can help take care of their trees and that makes you a bum?

You see a tree problem as you drive a long so you stop and tell the tree owner and offer to help and that makes you a bum?

Can I suggest that if we all waited for life to happen it would be a shame. Door knocking, direct mail, calling on the phone are all valid marketing systems. In management terms it is called being proactive.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Can I suggest that if we all waited for life to happen it would be a shame. Door knocking, direct mail, calling on the phone are all valid marketing systems. In management terms it is called being proactive.

It depends on what is door knocking. Would you go up and down a street, knocking on each and every door, asking for a chance to bid on work?

Asking for referrals is a bit different. "Who do you know that I can talk to next? I'll give you a discount for every sale I make." is good trade craft.

 

[Corymbia]

It depends on what is door knocking. Would you go up and down a street, knocking on each and every door, asking for a chance to bid on work?

Asking for referrals is a bit different. "Who do you know that I can talk to next? I'll give you a discount for every sale I make." is good trade craft.

I agree although I am sure there are areas in most cities where knocking on each door would still be a smart move if work was quiet. Apart from anything else the work will all be in the same locality.

 

[outofmytree]

IMO there is a stark difference between spotting a problem then discussing it with the tree owner and knocking on every door in the street.

These 2 big girls were the victims of some form of poisoning and were a danger to any of the 150 plus residents of the building let alone any visitors.

I spotted them from the street, called the managing agent, then followed up with a hazard assessment via email. 3 weeks later they were out. That is proactive marketting whilst observing peoples inherent right to the privacy of their own home.

 

[tree md]

You know, I have worked for a lot of tree services in my time. Some of the largest in my area. I've met a lot of owners. When I have asked or they have offered to tell me how they started out every one of them, to a man has told me working out of a pickup, going door to door, working neighborhoods. I'm not exaggerating, every one of them have told me that.

That's why I often laugh when someone wants to beat their chest about how legitimate a service they run. Most have started out just like everyone else, working out of a pickup hitting neighborhoods. And if they haven't the owner or founder of the tree service they work for has. Either that or they have bought someone out or had the business handed to them.

 

[tree md]

And as for the young black man in the article you posted. I believe in due process of the law (another cornerstone of a free society). I'll reserve judgment until he is judged by 12 of his peers.

As bad as it that story sounds, I have seen some pretty crafty seniors. I had a dealing with one myself who had hired three different tree services to do his job (97 trees). He tried to swindle everyone of us.

 

[JayD]

Yep I was right!

Mate, that wasn't a venomous post. You are deluding yourself. It was a plea for you to pull your head out of yours or someone elses Equus asinus.

And yes for better and worse the US of A does give freedom of speech as does the owner of this site. It is sad that their are no reflections of this pinnacle of democracy in your world. It is sad that all you can do is abuse this privilege.

I really do hope you can find some happiness this Easter JayD, as your sad lonely bitterness is a testament to the emptiness of your life! Really man, go and spend some time with your family and forget about AS/TW etc for a day. It is meant to be a time for celebrating and enjoying the good things in life. Before you start, I am an Atheist. My good wishes are not my theological beliefs they are my beliefs in humanity.

If it will help - I am a dum dum poo poo head. Now go and smell the roses!

How funny, Happy Easter one more time cuppa...lol..