Doug Dent's book

[bitzer]

I've never read it. Everything I know is from years of trial and error, A LOT of thought about the physics of it when I'm not in the woods, and from all of you knowledgable regulars in the F&L. At this point is Dent's book worth my time to read? Seriously. I guess the fact that I have the question at all shows that I'm curious. I don't know. What do you guys think? Hey, this is a matter of 15 bucks we're talking about here. ha.ha.

 

[slowp]

Maybe they have it for free at the library? You could save money that way.

 

[bitzer]

Nope, I checked a while back. Thanks for the thought though!

 

[Gologit]

Den'ts book is good. Beranek's is better. Why not get both?

 

[2dogs]

Den'ts book is good. Beranek's is better. Why not get both?

Both books are good to have for reference. "The Tree Climber's Companion" is another good book. Just don't take any advice over the internet.:msp_thumbdn:

 

[Gologit]

Both books are good to have for reference. "The Tree Climber's Companion" is another good book. Just don't take any advice over the internet.:msp_thumbdn:

Internet advice? Like this? http://www.arboristsite.com/arborist-101/163838.htm

Read all three pages... they're full of good intentions and piss-poor advice. Dangerous advice, even. Remind me not to ever leave the F&L section again, please.

 

[paccity]

missed that one. damn!

 

[slowp]

Internet advice? Like this? http://www.arboristsite.com/arborist-101/163838.htm

Read all three pages... they're full of good intentions and piss-poor advice. Dangerous advice, even. Remind me not to ever leave the F&L section again, please.

Those are scary even for me. I'm not a faller...

I checked our library system website, thinking it would have those books since we are a logging county, and neither was there. I may ask why on my next visit. Seems like they should have a couple of copies of each. It is the Timberland Library afterall.

 

[Gologit]

Those are scary even for me. I'm not a faller...

I checked our library system website, thinking it would have those books since we are a logging county, and neither was there. I may ask why on my next visit. Seems like they should have a couple of copies of each. It is the Timberland Library afterall.

Our library had a copy of Beranek's book. It hadn't been checked out in four years.

 

[flushcut]

Shoot me a PM I can mail it to you if you still want to read it. It is a interesting read the diagrams are a little hard to follow but the more you know won't hurt you.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Yes, Professional Timber Falling by Douglas Dent...
Bailey's - Professional Timber Falling by Douglas Dent

...is an excellent book.

As to reading the "instructions on how to do something" once you already know all about it, I do this all the time and always learn something new.

For example look up a common word in the dictionary. You might be surprised at what all the word means!

As to the Dent book, there are all sorts of situations which might rarely come up, but good to know there is a method to use. One of those might come in handy some day!

 

[paccity]

any one that says that they know it all, knows nothing. it's good to feed the brain.

 

[John Ellison]

Our library found a copy of Beraneks book for me, I believe they said it came from Colorado. They seemed happy to do it and called me when it came in.

I like Dents book, but it has a couple of mistakes in it. The (negative) diagrams of the cuts must have been reversed.

 

[RandyMac]

Internet advice? Like this? http://www.arboristsite.com/arborist-101/163838.htm

Read all three pages... they're full of good intentions and piss-poor advice. Dangerous advice, even. Remind me not to ever leave the F&L section again, please.

Oh the humanity.

 

[flushcut]

Internet advice? Like this? http://www.arboristsite.com/arborist-101/163838.htm

Read all three pages... they're full of good intentions and piss-poor advice. Dangerous advice, even. Remind me not to ever leave the F&L section again, please.

I just read that one, WOW, some people should never be allowed to pick up a saw.

 

[slowp]

Our library found a copy of Beraneks book for me, I believe they said it came from Colorado. They seemed happy to do it and called me when it came in.

I like Dents book, but it has a couple of mistakes in it. The (negative) diagrams of the cuts must have been reversed.

I'll try that here. I have the Dent book.

I also remember watching a zillion videos done by him. So many, they all ran together. He visited here and grabbed my insurance agent (this was in the 1980s before he became an insurance agent) and they proceeded to try to film. Apparently the trees were not cooperating and a couple went over backwards. Even the good have bad days.

 

[bitzer]

Thanks a lot boys and Miss P for the replys! I may have to get both now. Our library system is pretty much useless around here. I did find a couple of decent books on logging history in WI a few years back, but that was about it. I do have the climbers companion and the science of practical rigging. I'd also rather own the books so I can go back through them later. I come up with new or forgotten ideas that way.

I hope I didn't come off as saying I know it all. I know I have a lot to learn and just when you think you've got something hammered down something else pops up. Thats what its all about though and makes it interesting for me.

Thanks again!

 

[John Ellison]

I hope I didn't come off as saying I know it all. I know I have a lot to learn and just when you think you've got something hammered down something else pops up. Thats what its all about though and makes it interesting for me.

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

I know what you mean, I'm the same. Its the same thing as everything else, the more a person learns the more you realize how much that you don't know.

 

[Gologit]

I hope I didn't come off as saying I know it all. I know I have a lot to learn and just when you think you've got something hammered down something else pops up. Thats what its all about though and makes it interesting for me.

Thanks again!

Yup. In the end, the trees decide. You can fall 100 trees just the way you'd planned and that 101st might humble you for weeks afterward.

I've read both Dent and Beranek and I've picked up some good tricks from both. There's a lot of stuff in both books that I'll probably never use but it's always fun to learn new ways of doing things and try them out.

But, like an old guy told me when I was starting out..."the trees don't read the books".

 

[paccity]

if your not learning something new now and then it would get kinda boring. and you can never have too many tools in your box.