Drift Rig?

[TreeSurfer]

how often do you use a drift rig?
i learned how to use the drift rig from a friend and it seems pretty useful in certain situations where the piece cant be lowered under the block after it catches the load.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Quite often, any time there is a need to control the load and get it away from under the rig point.

Not just for blocking down logs, we use it for limbs too. Any time there is a second rig point to work from and there will be more then one use of the second line. If you have two GRCS's you can one line in as you pay out the second. Or have one GRCS on the side you will always have to draw in, some would say that is the rig line and the pay out is the drift line....FWIW

 

[sgreanbeans]

We use them pretty often. It may take a second to set up. But the pay off is big. Alot of options are always available, it seems guys dont like taking the time to set stuff up, would rather just go for it. This makes no sense to me. A little bit of prep setting up decent rigging and the job goes so smooth. No diff than a guy who hates using a tag line. I love them, gives the groundies extra control and allows them to guide whatever to a safe LZ, outa the way for me to keep going as they process the materiel. Nothing can get me more PO'ed than guys who want to cut something up right below you, making it very hard to set up a new rig with out flinging a rope into a saw

 

[TreeAce]

We use them pretty often. It may take a second to set up. But the pay off is big. Alot of options are always available, it seems guys dont like taking the time to set stuff up, would rather just go for it. This makes no sense to me. A little bit of prep setting up decent rigging and the job goes so smooth. No diff than a guy who hates using a tag line. I love them, gives the groundies extra control and allows them to guide whatever to a safe LZ, outa the way for me to keep going as they process the materiel. Nothing can get me more PO'ed than guys who want to cut something up right below you, making it very hard to set up a new rig with out flinging a rope into a saw

Amen brother.

 

[TreeSurfer]

thats when you dump some water on there heads to get the F outta the way.

i have been experimenting and brain storming with some cool rigging ideas. i had one similar to a drift rig but, instead of a second lowering line, you use a slide line.

 

[DangerTree]

thats when you dump some water on there heads to get the F outta the way.

i have been experimenting and brain storming with some cool rigging ideas. i had one similar to a drift rig but, instead of a second lowering line, you use a slide line.

You put water on there heads? I can think of something a bit warmer.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

thats when you dump some water on there heads to get the F outta the way.

i have been experimenting and brain storming with some cool rigging ideas. i had one similar to a drift rig but, instead of a second lowering line, you use a slide line.

Do you tie off one end of the line high, put a block over the friction device and connect the load with a pulley or carabiner? We've been calling this a double-whiped-tackle for a number of years here because of its similarly to a nautical rigging system of old.

It is double whipped because you've tied off to to separate points of anchor (purchase) to increase mechanical advantage.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

The big advantage of the drift over the DWT is control of the load and dispersal of load over a wider area, often into another tree.

The advantage of the DWT is not having to go to a different tree, and only having to set one rig point on the load, though the climber needs to find the CoB to avoid tangling the load in the line.

Both allow the ground better control over the load becaus it is supported at two different points.

 

[TreeSurfer]

this is my idea of drift rig. blue line is locked off at the porty. piece gets dropped on to the red line where it gets slowly swung over to the blue line. then the groundy takes off the red line from the red line porty, unlocks the blue line porty and lowers away.


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[Reg]

it seems guys dont like taking the time to set stuff up, would rather just go for it. This makes no sense to me.

'Busy fools' comes to mind....thank God for them, or I'd be out of work

 

[TreeSurfer]

amen REG. it doesnt take much time to set it up right the first time. i notice alot of guys here just cut and go. i try to make a rigging plan and stick to it even if it means a few more seconds in between cuts to set up another block.

i want a steing dual sooo SOOO BAD. we cant get them in hawaii becuase they weigh too much

 

[ducaticorse]

amen REG. it doesnt take much time to set it up right the first time. i notice alot of guys here just cut and go. i try to make a rigging plan and stick to it even if it means a few more seconds in between cuts to set up another block.

i want a steing dual sooo SOOO BAD. we cant get them in hawaii becuase they weigh too much

You can get them, you just have to pay

 

[CUCV]

Do you guys have any cool methods of setting the remote rigging points (pulleys) from the ground while keeping the loading on the limb the same as if it was set by a climber?

 

[troythetreeman]

this is my idea of drift rig. blue line is locked off at the porty. piece gets dropped on to the red line where it gets slowly swung over to the blue line. then the groundy takes off the red line from the red line porty, unlocks the blue line porty and lowers away.


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i use a method pretty close to that occasionally tho i usually keep control of the red line myself, i lower it into the blue lines vertical and then let them take control from the ground, occasionally in conjunction with a tag line as well, depending

 

[Bigus Termitius]

amen REG. it doesnt take much time to set it up right the first time. i notice alot of guys here just cut and go. i try to make a rigging plan and stick to it even if it means a few more seconds in between cuts to set up another block.

i want a steing dual sooo SOOO BAD. we cant get them in hawaii becuase they weigh too much

Why not build one?

With enough bamboo you can do anything...ask gilligan. Well, almost anything...

 

[CUCV]

You'd be amazed how the Wraptor changes setting remote rigging points!

I was thinking something that cost less than the Magbloc not 5X more The Wraptor does look way cool!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

i use a method pretty close to that occasionally tho i usually keep control of the red line myself, i lower it into the blue lines vertical and then let them take control from the ground, occasionally in conjunction with a tag line as well, depending

A competent groundman can handle both lines at once, I've know a few that can do it and tend the load too.

We do the three axis rig on the rare occasion too, though it is more likely to get tangled. Having The Winch on at least two of the lines to preeload and tend reduces that chance quite a bit.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

You'd be amazed how the Wraptor changes setting remote rigging points!

No kidding, all it adds is the number of ropes you carry I've had several ropes sitting in different trees waiting for block retrieval. The most i've done is seven on a job, leaving a throwline can get messy if it is in the workzone.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I was thinking something that cost less than the Magbloc not 5X more The Wraptor does look way cool!

If you work tall trees regularly it is a no brainer once you try it. I don't know if Paul iss still sending out the demo unit, but it convinced me on one bur oak. It makes it so easy to set rig points in near optimal locations without wearing yourself out. You just have to be good with the throwline

For me the wraptor is second only to GRCS in time saving tools that are worth the cost, I got almost a grand in my 385, and it sits at home way more then the Wraptor. I never go on a job these days without it., I've been saying that about the GRCS for ten years now.