Echo CS-590 timberwolf vs. Echo CS-600P

[jughead500]

thank you john.i used my 600 for regular farm boy logging for a while.most were 24-30" pine and poplar.then stumped 30-36" hard maple.also cut up some 36" hard maple for firewood after all of the smaller limbs were gone.it just had started to open up good before i sold it.
on another note.check this out.more expensive than the echo counterpart.still sweet though.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/252135714453

 

[john damps]

I hate to be the devil advocate, and not trying to start drama. But What saw did you compare side by side with, Also could you explain about the john deer pushing so much more then the cat. Did they have the same kind of tracks? because the cat has more hp and is a heaver machine, I would think they would be very close, as the cat only weighs around one ton more, and only has a very small amount more power. The only reason I ask, when we give a opinion and compare something, lets make sure its unbiased. Because someone may use it, and there findings may differ.

the deere was a fullcab h j series about 130 hrs power,700lgp.the cat was a straight track d6 seriese about a 2004 ,now the deere wovlnd push what a cat d6 lgp N series thay have 150 horse and way about 4500 pounds more,i was compairing apples to apples. my deere 650 has 110horse,but dosnt push as much as a komatsu ex39,[similar dozers] the deee has a lot of power but dosnt put it through out the tracks,it dosnt put ALL THAT POWER TO GOOD USE, the tracks spins to easy,the 700 is set up pefect you get all that power sent to the ground,and I run these all the time [daily]I think its like the old cat d6 1977-1984 D6D now that would push and push, the power went to the ground,

 

[john damps]

Husqvarna 562 is only 59.8ccm!

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I know ,and 4,7hrs,

 

[john damps]

I glad you like your new saw, and I know echo has made good stuff for years. But I think that is about enough from the super duper steel cutting tree slaying, granite eating, chain breaking 590. I would love to run my 044 against a 590 or 600 with a 25 in bar both burred in something hard.

wow big challenge,run a 800 dollor saw against a 400 dollor saw, and say how POWERFULL THE STIHL IS, WOW

 

[gary courtney]

wow big challenge,run a 800 dollor saw against a 400 dollor saw, and say how POWERFULL THE STIHL IS, WOW

He needs to run my masterminded 600p

 

[john damps]

He needs to run my masterminded 600p

hows that run??? fast'

 

[gary courtney]

hows that run??? fast'

it is pretty formidable against 70cc saws

 

[john damps]

it is pretty formidable against 70cc saws

I want to run the 600, some counties that's all they use, and cut big gum tree's I have 2 cs 400 [don't use much at all, 2 -590 and bought my son inlay a 590, and a 680 24inch, I know those 600 cost more for a reason, I need to try one,do they really scream?

 

[john damps]

Got that right, never understand the idea of being stingy with oil. 20:1 for me. Oil is cheap. (well sorta of cheap).
Has anyone run a cs-600 next to the new cs-620? I'm not giving up my cs-670, but I really getting hard not to drool at my echo dealer lately.

let me give you my recipite for chainsaw gas, now I run 7-10 a day I USE NONETHINOL HYSKY XP IN MY HUSKYS, ECHI SYNTHETIC IN MY ECHO, AND JONSRED IN MY JONSRED, WHEN IN A PINCH ALWAYS USE THE ECHO FOR OTHER SAWS, AND MOST IMPORTANT STARTRON GAS TREATMENT, [ALSO LAWN MOWER -SNOWBLOWER-AND YAMMAHA 250 4 STROKE VWAX , 3 GUYS CAME UP FRM TEXES IN 2011 TO A BASS TOURN, ABOUT 200 OF US,AND TOLD US THE GAS INTHE NORTH EAST IS THE WORST,IF WE BLOW UP OUR ENGINES DO TO GAS [LIKE A LOT OF STIHLS SAWS] THEY WONT WARRWNTY IT, MY MOTOR IS 26,000 DOLLORS,AFTER THEIR DEMO WITH APPROX 15 OF THE TOP ADDITIVES-STAYBUIT-LUCUS-TO MANY TO GET INTO, THE STARTRON TOOK THE WATER OUT AND DEVOVED ANY ETHINOL. THEY YAMMAHA-MERC-EVINDUDE,THE MANUFACTURE WILL WARRENTY THE ENGINGE, SO FOR 7.99 THAT GOES IN MY SAWS,IM PROUD TO SAY I NEVER EVER HAD FUEL PROBLEMS AND I LOG THE ICE COLD ADIRONDACKS,WONT LEAVE HOME WITH OUT IT,IHELPED MANY PEOPLE,THEIRSAWS WERE RUNNING ROUGHT,THE SARTRON SMOTHENED THEM RIGHT OUT, BUY IT AND USE IT, BE SMART,NOTHING IS BETTER

 

[Team FAST]

I will refer everyone to this thread:

http://www.arboristsite.com/communi...f-muffler-mod-flow-bench-measurements.299923/

 

[john damps]

Howdy;

Can anyone explain these two models as far as the price difference and any performance differences?

cs-590

cc: 59.8
price: $450-460

cs-600P



cc:59.8
price: $560-590 ??
why is this one so much more? It look very much like the cs-590 size wise.

Echo claims the cs-590 timberwoof has more power than same size stihl and husqvarna?? They do not give the comparion models form Stihl - Husqvarna.??Ok they did on the pdf chart-stihl 290 stihl 291 and husqvarna 455 rancher, so that is the category for this saw.

See it here:
Chainsaws, Professional-Grade Chain Saws, Top Handle Chain Saws | ECHO USA

I did do a search on this but I didn't get any results so if this is already been discussed sorry in advance, thanks again.

ps : I saw a husqvarna saw ad on TV this weekend and they pronouced husqvarna "hoosqvarna", is that right? :msp_confused:

Howdy;

Can anyone explain these two models as far as the price difference and any performance differences?

cs-590

cc: 59.8
price: $450-460

cs-600P



cc:59.8
price: $560-590 ??
why is this one so much more? It look very much like the cs-590 size wise.

Echo claims the cs-590 timberwoof has more power than same size stihl and husqvarna?? They do not give the comparion models form Stihl - Husqvarna.??Ok they did on the pdf chart-stihl 290 stihl 291 and husqvarna 455 rancher, so that is the category for this saw.

See it here:
Chainsaws, Professional-Grade Chain Saws, Top Handle Chain Saws | ECHO USA

I did do a search on this but I didn't get any results so if this is already been discussed sorry in advance, thanks again.

ps : I saw a husqvarna saw ad on TV this weekend and they pronouced husqvarna "hoosqvarna", is that right? :msp_confused:

I SAID FROM DAY ONE THE 590 TIMBERWOLF WAS AND IS THE BEST BUY ON THE MARKET,AND IS THE BEST SAW IN ITS CLASS,[HUSKY 460-455-STHL291 JONSRED 2255,[CLOSE] AND DOLMAR,WHITCH IS 196 BUCKS MORE,ANY FARM-RANCH SAW [NOT PRO THE 562XO JONSRED 2260STIHL 361 ARE FASTER BUT NOT FOR 400 BUCKS] FOR 400 DOLLORS THE ECHO 590 IS THE BEST,MY OPINOIN,I HAVE A TOTAL OF 15 CHAIN SAWS,SOME BIG ONES,THE SMALLEST IS AN ECHO CS400, 299 DOLLORS,ALL THE WAY TO 1400 DOLLOR SAWS,I DONT CARE ABOUT LOYALTY MOST OF STIHL LOVERS the guy that says all stihl are the best are brain washed, in most cases [not ALL CASES]husky ,echo jonsred,dolmar are much better,i always say you get what you pay for,too many guys compare a 700 dollor saw to a 400 saw,not every 59cc saw is the same,not every 70cc saw is the same,i have many twins husky 372 and jonsred 2172,in that case I like the husy,i like my 2166 more than my 365 ,I like the 2260 more than the 562xp,i like the balance of the jonsred, over all if I had to only have 2 chainsaws and lived in the mountains of Alaska I would take a new echo 590 20inch bar and a new 272 husky or the jonsred 2260,

 

[hopm]

590 is an outstanding buy.....bought mine for $335 new in the box...warranty...ready to roll.....no doubt there are better, bigger, stronger saws.....but not for $335

 

[Wow]

590 is an outstanding buy.....bought mine for $335 new in the box...warranty...ready to roll.....no doubt there are better, bigger, stronger saws.....but not for $335

I bought mine in 2016 and have never needed to do anything but put a new 24 inch (better) bar and chain sharpen adjust chain, add petrol and oil then run it as hard as I like. My brother's 600p came with a 24 inch bar. His saw pulled and oiled great. I had a 20 inch bar on my 029 so installed the 24 on my 590. Then for that occasionally 36-48 + inch tree I bought a 27 or 28 can't remember exactly, and took those big bad boys down easily. The longer bar oils great. I have several Sthils and use the 024 a lot, 029 most of the time, Echo 310, selectively, and the 590 felling and Bucking anything that seems to work my 029 hard. The 590 is the saw I choose when I'm in a hurry and need to get done fast.
On smallish trees the 029 is fast enough. The 024 cuts almost as fast as the 026 which feels lighter but I prefer the 024 over the 026. This time of year (winter) I'll often clear underbrush and vines away from trees which will be cut later with a bigger saw. That's done with the Echo cs310.
At 70 years old the 310 is so much lighter. However, I sometimes I wish I'd have bought the next size up. It may be a tad faster. As much as I want to climb I stopped a couple years ago because older guys don't take falls and all I've ever known is hard work (which is play to me) and if I were to become crippled up and wheel chair bound my life would be totally worthless. Once for a couple years, I was having back problems. I've crawled up a hill one time snipping saw briers and hacking brush pulling a Chainsaw to get to a tree. I've felled and bucked on my knees. Got better and still can't stop. The sound of a well tuned Chainsaw is music to me. It's in the blood. Can't imagine quitting. May as well be dead. I'll bet I'm not the only guy like that either. I'm supposed to be retired. Once I worked to live, now I live to work. Sometimes just a few hours a day but I've got to reeve a saw, or drive a tractor and feel the wind, smell and taste mother nature. That's heaven that's living. Good day.

 

[K-techcowboy]

Howdy;

Can anyone explain these two models as far as the price difference and any performance differences?

cs-590

cc: 59.8
price: $450-460

cs-600P



cc:59.8
price: $560-590 ??
why is this one so much more? It look very much like the cs-590 size wise.

Echo claims the cs-590 timberwoof has more power than same size stihl and husqvarna?? They do not give the comparion models form Stihl - Husqvarna.??Ok they did on the pdf chart-stihl 290 stihl 291 and husqvarna 455 rancher, so that is the category for this saw.

See it here:
Chainsaws, Professional-Grade Chain Saws, Top Handle Chain Saws | ECHO USA

I did do a search on this but I didn't get any results so if this is already been discussed sorry in advance, thanks again.

ps : I saw a husqvarna saw ad on TV this weekend and they pronouced husqvarna "hoosqvarna", is that right? :msp_confused:

What did you end up getting?

 

[kuhndog]

Used my first rim kit from LRB (I bought 2) and have to say fit and finish was great. Also I think they were about $24? Maybe they need some words to bring them back.

 

[kuhndog]

Just an FYI for you Echo guys. LRB has the rim kits back in stock for the CS590, since I have 17 (590) out with neighbors I had to pick up 2 more.

 

[Doug H]

I got a rim sprocket clutch drum from Archer, an Australian chainsaw supplier, for my Timberwolf to replace the stock spur sprocket for around the same price. It's an older saw that has an aluminum handlebar. Combined with an easy and free muffler mod and a carb retune, it cuts almost as fast as my old Stihl 440 for way less than half the price. You can advance the timing for more power, but I don't need more. And they come with a 5 year warranty that Echo actually honors, unlike some bigger European manufacturers.