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Mr. dsavage, could you please give me the address where the saws are manufactured? thanks
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Igpoe
Companies are going to do whatever they need to do to survive. It seems like when they go the way of the box stores-Quality of the product suffers for the sake of price...
I've sold Tanaka products for over 10 years. Expensive-yes. But sold them as the high quality machine that they WERE. Now owned by Hitachi and built in China the prices have gone down, but so has the quality.
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Saw Dr.
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Just a quick comment on the pole pruners (they are chainsaws, right?) I REALLY like the articulating head on the big pruner. That feature should be mandatory on all brands. Much easier to make a notch in the bottom, and cut down from the top to get the bigger limbs. Better for the trees too, as the bark does not try to "peel" at the bottom of the cut.
You guys get to see this first. You see the insides, and you get the ones with problems brought in. Too often we have seen companies bought for their name and reputation that were built up over a long period of time. Then some holding company will buy the rights to that name only and exploit it for short term profits.
That's one of the reasons that user input on forums like this are so valuable.
Philbert
(same name, same quality for . . . well, for a bunch of years)
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Feedback-amundo-ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/227664.htm
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http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/227664.htm
(Sorry for the Fonz reference.I blame my hernia operation a couple days ago and chewing Dilaudid's :msp_blink: )
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It would be interesting if the Efco guy here would weigh in and provide his 2 cents in light of the thread just started regarding Efco's apparent new strategy.
That's useful information, but it is not always that simple. A good example is the Redmax 400/4000 and Ryobi 10532 sister saws. The sticker on some Redmaxes, especially the 4000s, says made in Japan, the sticker on some 400s says made in China, the stickers on all the Ryobis I've seen says made in China. BUT, all of the cylinders I've seen are Zenoah cylinders, with the same part number and made in Japan. So far, I've personally inspected 2 4000s, one 400, and 4 10532s. The cylinder on all of them have the same part number and Zenoah markings.
A Redmax dealer I got friendly with told me at one point the Redmax company was selling engines to the chinese company that built the Ryobis, so you ended up with a quality Redmax engine in a chassis that included a fair amount of cheaper Chinese plastic. The parts prices reflect it, too. Redmax parts are generally pretty pricy, but you can buy the Ryobi 10532 parts that fit right on for much cheaper, if you don't care that the plastic doesn't match.
Thanks for linking that thread to this one. 12 pages of hopeful, open minded, brand consideration pretty much washed away by a bucket of cold water from a long time A.S. member and sponsor.
Gone from a 'never really thought about them' to a 'don't want to think about them'.
People will tolerate a mediocre product (look at the 'Earthquake' thread!) more than they will being lied to, or companies screwing over their customers or dealers.
Mr. 'dsavage'?
Philbert
totally agree. many a company has bitten the dust cause they thought the consumer was too stupid to understand. get the bean counters out of the way and let the realists who understand that it takes a good product with good service back in. a hard-earned reputation can be lost easily by shenanigans such as these.
Big_Wood
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i used to want to try one but now that i've read about the dealer network and warranty claims they are a POS and i'd rather run a wild thing.
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Efco is sold in USA under the name John D ie The Efco 8200 with 6ps is a a very well sold John D in green not red A strong and good saw that is well built and strong.
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EFCO is not rebranding any US saws now; that practice ended several years ago.
just a suggestion. if you're gonna post and want to be taken seriously, do your homework. otherwise, you're gonna be taken as a troll. john deere quit selling rebadged efcos several years ago. they now sell stihls.
Don't know if this means anything, but Menard's opened a brand new store here this week. No Efcos displayed in the chainsaw aisle.
3 versions of Earthquakes. A couple of Poulans including the Wild Thing!. A bunch of Remington gassers. Poulan Pro is the top saw that they have displayed (some of the Remingtons are more, but looked cheap.)
Philbert
3 versions of Earthquakes. A couple of Poulans including the Wild Thing!. A bunch of Remington gassers. Poulan Pro is the top saw that they have displayed (some of the Remingtons are more, but looked cheap.)
Philbert
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Philbert we have a new menards about 45 miles from us. Wife and I went last weekend and I saw the same as you. 
8433jeff
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Efco and Menards have parted ways. Menards is selling remaining stock.
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