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I believe that someone who falls hardwood can also be very adept at falling softwood, but not the other way around. Hardwood is a whole different learning curve.
Gypo

Sssshhhhhhhh......... you'll piss off the locals!!!!!!!! ;)

Some of them would do great with a little technique adaptation and I'd love to have do a little cross continental fallers exchange to give them a shot at what I deal with. Course, I wouldn't mind cutting trees that have about 4 more logs per tree either.......
 
Sssshhhhhhhh......... you'll piss off the locals!!!!!!!! ;)

Some of them would do great with a little technique adaptation and I'd love to have do a little cross continental fallers exchange to give them a shot at what I deal with. Course, I wouldn't mind cutting trees that have about 4 more logs per tree either.......

LOLOL...Cutting hardwoods can make you humble for weeks afterwards. We get into clearing and road ROW jobs every once in awhile and trying to out guess some of those multi-stem oaks can make for an adventurous day. We don't care if they splatter 'cause they're not marketable but they're sure full of surprises. I've had ones that I walked around three times and from every angle they looked like they'd do something different than they finally did. I found out that even an old geezer can run pretty fast if he has to. :)
Props to you guys who have to cut that crap every day.
 
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I Got a taste of falling hardwoods on the East Coast. Working for Columbia in 96, volunteered for a trip to Marianna, Florida. Working in the swamps, mostly hardwoods with the exception of a few cypress. The over-story was intense, especially with the vines running everywhere. Would usually get a good 15-20 feet away from the stump and preferably behind a big tree. Some of those big oaks with branching tops going every which way would throw back some serious debris. It was tough to get much further away from the stump as we were usually treading knee deep water on average. It was even worse when it was just mud. A guy definitely wanted to wait for all the limbs to stop falling and note any that were still hangin and if they were safe to work under, or if you should open a bigger hole. My biggest fear was gettin conked in the head, and knocked unconscious, subsequently drowning and gettin eaten by gators :). Worked there about a month...long enough to get poison oak so bad that Columbia felt bad enough for me to send me back to the West Coast (good thing too cuz I was not makin very good money in the swamps). Definitely earned a respect for the different timber falling environments that a guy can encounter while trampin around the country. There are, however, some gnarly hardwoods on the west coast too. I just so happened to get my leg broke very badly by a big, broken over, tan oak in Northern California...It made an erratic and acrobatic movement when it hit the ground, and sprung around and shot back hitting me in the chest, launching me back and coming down on my leg, snapping it like a twig and pinning me to the ground. Luckily I hung on to my saw and was able to saw the butt of the tree off of me. Some of the very brittle, and heavy Madrones can be nasty too. Loaded vine maple :jawdrop: , Alder all over coastal Oregon, Washington, and some in Alaska, all had to be fell with the rest of your strip. It all deserves respect. The most dangerous timber falling environment that I encountered was the broken up, nasty snag infested islands of Southeast Alaska. Falling snags that you wonder why they were still standing, on ground that can snap your leg, or your body, with one false step...trying to clear from some of those trees was scary, if you could even clear much at all. Anyhow, enough rambling, I just wanted to say that every timber falling environment has it's own unique set of obstacles to encounter and overcome, some more adverse than others, but they should all be learned, and most importantly, respected.
 
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I just so happened to get my leg broke very badly by a big, broken over, tan oak in northern california...it made an erratic and acrobatic movement when it hit the ground, and sprung around and shot back hitting me in the chest, launching me back and coming down on my leg, snapping it like a twig and pinning me to the ground. Luckily i hung on to my saw and was able to saw the butt of the tree off of me.

5 Star Gold Medal Loggin' Tales Award Winner !!

Let's see someone top that one.

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I just wanted to say that every timber falling environment has it's own unique set of obstacles to encounter and overcome, some more adverse than others, but they should all be learned, and most importantly, respected.

Truer words have never been spoken. Good post!
Gypo
 
Sssshhhhhhhh......... you'll piss off the locals!!!!!!!! ;)

Some of them would do great with a little technique adaptation and I'd love to have do a little cross continental fallers exchange to give them a shot at what I deal with. Course, I wouldn't mind cutting trees that have about 4 more logs per tree either.......

Hammer, we should'nt be so hard on our lesser West Coast counterparts.
I think my knees would be knocking if I was falling on a snag filled slope, especially if I was working in a crew with a bunch of woodticks who had Paul Bunyan complexes. Lol
Gypo
 
I ran away, like there was little fire demons after me. My Bro and I had a very close call, A big rotten Tanoak, it split and twisted, hit a big Fir snag, rolled, kicked back off the stump, drove a fresh cut 16" dia stump 6" into the ground. It was our fault, entirely.
I was fortunate to have the opportunity to fall all kinds of trees, lots of different types grow in North CA.
 
I too would like to try on some pine. I have dropped alot of "large" (60"+) hard wood trees. Each one is different. Each tree and it don't matter what kind of tree, is different. The ones that bother me the most is the ones that are hallow. I hate them. Way too unpredictable.

Ray
 
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