Facecut question.

[Gologit]

This is by far the coolest response to "new guy" harrassment I've ever read. Well done.

Yup, even if he does put in face cuts that are too small to be seen by the naked eye. He'll probably do alright here.

 

[Gologit]

Oh goody, a bunch of new experts. :hmm3grin2orange:

Well, with HBRN gone and Logbutcher in perma-ban status...we need some new blood. At least this guy has a sense of humor. He'll need it.

Hey, a little off topic here but what size boots do you wear?

 

[RandyMac]

Well, with HBRN gone and Logbutcher in perma-ban status...we need some new blood. At least this guy has a sense of humor. He'll need it.

Hey, a little off topic here but what size boots do you wear?

11D
What is on your mind Boss?

 

[closetoreality]

11D
What is on your mind Boss?

He's indirectly trying to figure out how much your packin.

 

[jeepyfz450]

Got a picture of this?

Sorry no pictures. I learned it from a guy that cut in front of a forwarder. the boom on the forwarder could not reach some of the logs he bucked off (ussually down over a bank). he would cut the logs like i mentioned and if the forwarder operator could get to the first log he could pull the others (if there were any) within reach. he said it worked out now and then if it didnt then they would just get out of the forwarder and use the winch.

 

[RandyMac]

He's indirectly trying to figure out how much your packin.

you can go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

 

[Gologit]

He's indirectly trying to figure out how much your packin.

I'll thank you NOT to explain to anybody else what I've said or what I might mean by saying it. I don't need, or particularly want, your help. Thanks anyway.

 

[northmanlogging]

opcorn::givebeer: let the kung fu begin

 

[slowp]

when bucking logs on a side hill i like to cut down 6'' or so from the top, bore cut the center, and cut up from the bottom. if you line the top and bottom cut up and offset the bore cut a few saw kerfs. it will hold the log from rolling down the hill and break off once the skidder hooks onto it.

Isn't that called a Russian Coupling or something like? And I've seen where the logs didn't break off. The siderod was furious, and the fallers got sent down into the brush with the rigging crew and had to buck the logs properly. I don't think they got paid for the extra work either. It was on some seriously steep ground.

 

[RandyMac]

opcorn::givebeer: let the kung fu begin

I'll deal with you later :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Gologit]

Isn't that called a Russian Coupling or something like? And I've seen where the logs didn't break off. The siderod was furious, and the fallers got sent down into the brush with the rigging crew and had to buck the logs properly. I don't think they got paid for the extra work either. It was on some seriously steep ground.

Yup, Russian coupling. If you do it right it's a good trick to use. If you do it wrong you can bust up some valuable timber. If we were looking at sidehill runaways on steep ground we'd usually leave the tallest stumps we could down hill from the buck, cut them clean, and just let 'em fly. I've seen some bad slab-outs when that Russian coupling was a little too big and I've seen some bad runaways and slide backs when they were a little too small and broke off before anybody was ready for them.

 

[slowp]

I believe the siderod called it a :censored: :censored: russian coupling.

 

[Gologit]

I believe the siderod called it a :censored: :censored: russian coupling.

Yup...that's the one. You didn't put in enough cuss words, though.:rolleyes2: Some of the runaways would go clear to the road. We told the side rod we wouldn't charge extra for the de-barking.

 

[slowp]

Yes, and the high stumps would not hold the logs on the hill. I had to walk the boundary a few times after the crew left for the day, and logs would shift and roll on their own....I stayed well out of the way. It was one of those down, across the creek, and back up the other side clearcuts that aren't done on FS land anymore.

 

[Cedar Ed]

Is anyone using the open facecut technique? I heard it's the new way.

 

[Samlock]

Is anyone using the open facecut technique? I heard it's the new way.

Few times with head leaning alder stock, in order to avoid splitting. Which that timber most likely will do no matter what.

Otherwise, a notch will always lose wood. Either it's a tall stump (humboldt) or a mutilated butt (conventional). With an open face you'll have them both.

 

[closetoreality]

you can go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

not even worth it..

 

[RandyMac]

not even worth it..

You can take your latent tendencies elsewhere.

 

[jeepyfz450]

Isn't that called a Russian Coupling or something like? And I've seen where the logs didn't break off. The siderod was furious, and the fallers got sent down into the brush with the rigging crew and had to buck the logs properly. I don't think they got paid for the extra work either. It was on some seriously steep ground.

I could see where it would cause problems if not done correctly. i have never tried it on softwoods ussually maple and beech.

 

[closetoreality]

You can take your latent tendencies elsewhere.

Who the hell are you furthermore do I owe you money? I don't think so, piss off.

Your a sensitive gal on here, hope your not like that in the brush.