Fair Price For Pine?

[flyboy553]

I recently cleared a blowdown area of a mix of Red Pine, White Pine and Black Hills Spruce . They are limbed and piled in full length. All the piles are stacked with the butts on one end. About 600 trees total.
I had a guy out there yesterday from a local company that chips everything in to either mulch or bio-fuel.
He thought there were maybe 90-100 cords of wood all together. He wants them cut in to 16 to 18 ft lengths so they fit the bunks of his trailer.(a lot more work!)

Once cut to the length he wants he will come get them for 18 dollars a ton.
Is that a fair price for this wood?

Ted

 

[chucker]

it really all depends on how much value you put on your time ! expencese are a fair share of the first ton to produce a cord of wood into pole lengths..... so at 90 cd an 18.00 a ton your looking at close to 45.00 a cord(green/wet)=($4050.00).......... locally here pine of less than saw bolt size <8"x100" and less quality runs at 50.00 a cord, 75.00 to 100.00 a cord for bolt material. with more time and expense going into a readly finished product i will venture to say that you would be working for your log buyer on this one with the extra time/wear&tear....

 

[flyboy553]

it really all depends on how much value you put on your time ! expencese are a fair share of the first ton to produce a cord of wood into pole lengths..... so at 90 cd an 18.00 a ton your looking at close to 45.00 a cord(green/wet)=($4050.00).......... locally here pine of less than saw bolt size <8"x100" and less quality runs at 50.00 a cord, 75.00 to 100.00 a cord for bolt material. with more time and expense going into a readly finished product i will venture to say that you would be working for your log buyer on this one with the extra time/wear&tear....

Yeah I agree. I didn't think that was much of a price, but then again, I do not do logging all the time. This was the first guy to come out and look at the material. Local company from in town. Not really known for paying decent.
At the prices you are talking about, it might pay to rent a log trailer and bring them up your way! lol
Ted

 

[chucker]

for sure ted! deff. get a couple more offers as to the total tree length for your asking price?... rather then do more and get less like our minn. dnr asking for higher price for a state res. fishing/hunting license and then lower the limits as such !! ????? lol its a different world if a person was on the bad side of the "wolf is at the door" for working for nothing hey! best to your venture !!!!!

 

[Naked Arborist]

about 75 a cord is what I can get for yellow pine here in Jersey.

 

[lmbrman]

local prices here -

pulp - around $75/cord
minibolts 5-7" $100/cord
bolts 7" + $115/cord

not sure those prices mean much over by you, but that is all know

I heard froma guy in my area last week and he was working in the grantsburg area and said he could have all the blowdown pine he wanted for $2/cord on the stump

-dave

 

[flyboy553]

local prices here -

pulp - around $75/cord
minibolts 5-7" $100/cord
bolts 7" + $115/cord

not sure those prices mean much over by you, but that is all know

I heard froma guy in my area last week and he was working in the grantsburg area and said he could have all the blowdown pine he wanted for $2/cord on the stump

-dave

Yeah, that is what the guy from Sylva said too. Sylva is the local company that does chipping.
Ted

 

[q-tip jr]

time to move?

here in central N.C. loggers are getting about 12/15 a ton to :cut,skid and load on a truck....
when I was last in Maine in '96 I was getting 12.34 a ton to cut and skid red spruce to the side of the road with an old TJ cable machine, buck bought a little more then as I recall...

 

[lmbrman]

here in central N.C. loggers are getting about 12/15 a ton to :cut,skid and load on a truck....
when I was last in Maine in '96 I was getting 12.34 a ton to cut and skid red spruce to the side of the road with an old TJ cable machine, buck bought a little more then as I recall...

think the rate around here is about $40/cord to process the timber- ie; deposit on the landing

 

[redprospector]

You guy's get pretty good money for your Pine.
Around here some take it to a so called pellet mill. He pays $16 a ton....delivered.
Now to deliver it from my job, I'd have to haul it 11 miles up a 7% grade then turn left and go another 16 miles down a 6% grade, then you turn right and go another 12 miles (across flat ground at least), and turn right on a rough desert dirt road for about a mile, and there you are. That's $400 for a 25 ton load. Truck will get $300, and I'm pretty sure I'll have $75 in labor, fuel, and wear & tear on the loader. So to me Pine is worth about $1 a ton.
Just to prove a point, I had the district forester tell him that I'd give him a dozen loads for free if he'd bring his own truck & loader up and get it. Funny, I never heard from him. I guess he declined my offer.

Andy

 

[lmbrman]

You guy's get pretty good money for your Pine.
Around here some take it to a so called pellet mill. He pays $16 a ton....delivered.
Now to deliver it from my job, I'd have to haul it 11 miles up a 7% grade then turn left and go another 16 miles down a 6% grade, then you turn right and go another 12 miles (across flat ground at least), and turn right on a rough desert dirt road for about a mile, and there you are. That's $400 for a 25 ton load. Truck will get $300, and I'm pretty sure I'll have $75 in labor, fuel, and wear & tear on the loader. So to me Pine is worth about $1 a ton.
Just to prove a point, I had the district forester tell him that I'd give him a dozen loads for free if he'd bring his own truck & loader up and get it. Funny, I never heard from him. I guess he declined my offer.

Andy

OUCH !!

Not too bad right where i am at, especially the more guys i hear from elsewhere. There are dozens of small sawmills around doing pine - log siding, t&g, landscape timbers, you name it. Keeps stuff moving. If the pulp prices drop, the volume of cut pine goes down and the sawmills raise prices to get bolts. Price changes often, and many of the mills are amish without phones, so keeping track and planning where to go with timber gets difficult unless you are in the area regular.

-dave