Falling pics 11/25/09

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Thanks Chris! Here it is I think.

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Bitz, you sound Irish in your video. You from Ireland?

Cool vid too!
 
Hey, thanks a lot boys!

Great pics Hammer! That the bore through the face to hit the far side in action? How many logs are you getting out of those poplars? Just wondering if they are some real tall sobs. Looks like fun!

Metals- Irish? Ha. ha. I'm mostly German. I was thinking I sounded like a damn canadian. (no offense to my canadian brethren). That camera is a cheap pos and the sound is a little screwy, but what I think you're hearin is the sweet wisconsin backwoods drawl. It gets worse after a few beers, but you should hear them boys up north towards the U.P. !

Madhatte- One thing I was always told by my physics professors is that wind is never taken into account when working problems. I really had to crank on it when the wind was blowin. I wonder what it'd be like with leaves on it? I'd say that really put that jack through its paces.
 
Leaves make a big difference, like sails. . . There have been days where it is dead calm most everywhere on the ground, but 60 feet up maybe there is all kinds of faint turbulence. the trees sit back, then lurch forward, then sit back, then ease forward and stay there for a minute, then you cut expecting it to fall, then it sits back and dosent fall, and you wait,then it falls.just part of the job. Yea maybe a wedge might help. .
 
Hey, thanks a lot boys!

Great pics Hammer! That the bore through the face to hit the far side in action? How many logs are you getting out of those poplars? Just wondering if they are some real tall sobs. Looks like fun!

Metals- Irish? Ha. ha. I'm mostly German. I was thinking I sounded like a damn canadian. (no offense to my canadian brethren). That camera is a cheap pos and the sound is a little screwy, but what I think you're hearin is the sweet wisconsin backwoods drawl. It gets worse after a few beers, but you should hear them boys up north towards the U.P. !

That's where I lived. Up Nort. Next to the UP. The guys who came from there were sometimes un-understandable...yooooouuuu knowwwwwwwwww. I can do a Wisconsin accent naturally, cuz some of us grew up amongst Scandihoovian relatives here.

You have too many different trees which don't have leaves to tell what they are in the winter. At least this PNWer had a hard time with that.

Very few guys cut by hand up nort. I think there was one.

Why can't Wisconsin be closer to here? Youse guys were pretty nice. No need to lock the house up where I lived.

More videos please, except I was thinking, you need a hose for your handle so youse can get farther away, hey.
 
Managed to snap an actual falling pic today, inbetween trying to look busy job while one of the project-managers were overseeing my falling.

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That's where I lived. Up Nort. Next to the UP. The guys who came from there were sometimes un-understandable...yooooouuuu knowwwwwwwwww. I can do a Wisconsin accent naturally, cuz some of us grew up amongst Scandihoovian relatives here.

You have too many different trees which don't have leaves to tell what they are in the winter. At least this PNWer had a hard time with that.

Very few guys cut by hand up nort. I think there was one.

Why can't Wisconsin be closer to here? Youse guys were pretty nice. No need to lock the house up where I lived.

More videos please, except I was thinking, you need a hose for your handle so youse can get farther away, hey.

Snow day today. I plow in my free time. Taking a little break right now.

Yeah I can clean it up when I have to and be articulate, but usually in the woods I let er slide a little. I'm not so bad with the "ya der heys," but as you can hear I've got some.

Yep, theres a lot of bark to learn around here and even that can be misleading region to region. I'm still trying to figure out all of the spruces, hemlocks, pines, firs and other softies you all have out there. We do have some of them here. I've seen a few Dougs and Sitkas, transplants obviously. The hardwoods seem generally smaller up nort, the pines being the orginal primary.

Where abouts were you at? I've spent a lot of time in the Minoqua-Eagle River-Boulder Junction area. Everyone owns at least one gun here if not many so we don't have to lock our doors. Ha.ha.
 
Leaves make a big difference, like sails. . . There have been days where it is dead calm most everywhere on the ground, but 60 feet up maybe there is all kinds of faint turbulence. the trees sit back, then lurch forward, then sit back, then ease forward and stay there for a minute, then you cut expecting it to fall, then it sits back and dosent fall, and you wait,then it falls.just part of the job. Yea maybe a wedge might help. .

I wonder what all the pressure changes really are when jackin decent wood in the wind, not that little piddly thing I just showed. I remember (I think) Cody a while back talking about some big OG wood that he and his partner where falling into the wind. The jack kept redlining and finally went. I've spent my share of of aiming several clicks off the lay to adjust for wind. What amazes me is, when you're sitting in a deer stand 15' up, dead calm day and the tree starts swaying. You look around like wtf? Just a tiny breath a wind.
 
I remember cutting in a stand of poplars where I cut up like 5 trees, none of them wanted to fall.. So i was going to knock em over with a pusher. A few minutes later they all decided they would fall on their own. There was basically no wind on the ground that day, just breeze hitting the tops of the trees. Haha, I bet waiting for an OG redwood to peel back off the stump or open wide is quite scary!!
 
I wonder what all the pressure changes really are when jackin decent wood in the wind, not that little piddly thing I just showed. I remember (I think) Cody a while back talking about some big OG wood that he and his partner where falling into the wind. The jack kept redlining and finally went. I've spent my share of of aiming several clicks off the lay to adjust for wind. What amazes me is, when you're sitting in a deer stand 15' up, dead calm day and the tree starts swaying. You look around like wtf? Just a tiny breath a wind.

A pressure gauge can be a real eye opener. There's usually quite a bit of safety margin built in to the red line but age and normal deterioration can make the limit something of a guessing game. I've seen jacks blow out and I've had pressure gauges and pump lines rupture. If you're right up to the limits of the jack and that happens it gets real ugly real quick. If I'm going to be jacking trees that I know will test the limits of the jack I'll carry some shims with me. Another good trick is to wedge as you jack and wedge as much as possible the whole time. That way if your jack blows out or if the tree sets back hard on the jack you might have a better chance of getting out without tearing up expensive equipment.
Another caution about jacks, as long as I'm blabbing away, is to never ever assume a jack will solve all your problems with a bad leaner. Using a combination cut, like the Coos Bay, along with a little gentle jacking, will usually produce better results. And it might result in a lot less cussing, too. :smile2:
 
... Haha, I bet waiting for an OG redwood to peel back off the stump or open wide is quite scary!!

It's only scary if you're close to it. Whenever I had one that wanted to walk back or go sideways on me I made sure to watch the whole procedure from a distance. Big distance. Lol...that's how you tell a faller that's had a bad day, the caulks on the toes of his boots will be worn down farther than the others...from being up on them running.
 

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