Falling pics 11/25/09

[RandyMac]

What happened to go forth and fear no evil? lol

HaH!
That applies to sawing, with big inch saws. I ran from almost every tree, sometimes I kept going after I heard the crash.

 

[jrcat]

I just had to ask lol. But anyway. so if they are leaning hard up hill go steep and deep?

 

[northmanlogging]

Leaning up hill is a little odd... see if you can quarter them to the lean/up hill, That way they shouldn't run so far down hill (they will still run just have a better chance of getting stuck on something). Humboldt cut is yer friend on hills.

 

[Metals406]

Keep the trunk on the stump as long as you can, Put a MacKendrick Face Cut™ in it (go steep and deep).

FIXT! :msp_thumbup:

 

[lumberjack48]

Leaner's can be very, very dangerous, which all of us professional tree fellers know. I always used what my dad taught me 53 yrs ago, he called it the Box cut. I never had a tree chair on me using this simple method, notch leaning side about 1/4 deep, strap cut each side about 1/4 deep. finish with back cut. After it falls you'll see why its call the box cut, perfect square in center of the stump. When using a small saw you'll feel safer using this cut on a bad leaner. I always used, power, high rpm, razor sharp saw when felling. But, theres always that BUT, I've had a leaner get away from me, i couldn't keep up with it when it started to split. Like all you tree fallers know, you know when its time to get out of Dodge, this is when it gets scary. When the tree finishes BB Chairing, it will usually fall three ways, straight back or ether side. As a faller, all you can do is run away from it and pray its not falling your way, run, run for something to get behind. After its all over, your in one piece, you ask yourself, [What the Hell were you doing and thinking] we all know better but we always play with Murphy's Law.
The thing is to do it right, don't take short cuts, then you don't have any of this high drama.

 

[HuskStihl]

Leaner's can be very, very dangerous, which all of us professional tree fellers know. I always used what my dad taught me 53 yrs ago, he called it the Box cut. I never had a tree chair on me using this simple method, notch leaning side about 1/4 deep, strap cut each side about 1/4 deep. finish with back cut. After it falls you'll see why its call the box cut, perfect square in center of the stump. When using a small saw you'll feel safer using this cut on a bad leaner. I always used, power, high rpm, razor sharp saw when felling. But, theres always that BUT, I've had a leaner get away from me, i couldn't keep up with it when it started to split. Like all you tree fallers know, you know when its time to get out of Dodge, this is when it gets scary. When the tree finishes BB Chairing, it will usually fall three ways, straight back or ether side. As a faller, all you can do is run away from it and pray its not falling your way, run, run for something to get behind. After its all over, your in one piece, you ask yourself, [What the Hell were you doing and thinking] we all know better but we always play with Murphy's Law.
The thing is to do it right, don't take short cuts, then you don't have any of this high drama.

Great post. I've got some leaners coming up, and was planning on doing a "triangle cut" which may or not be a "coos bay". Sounds like the "box cut" is pretty similar, getting rid of as much extra holding wood as possible before starting the back cut. If I'm feeling ballsy, I might bore a few. Mine are smaller, prolly 20", on flat ground. If they were big, severe and steep, I'd probably drive up to Georgetown, TX, pick up The Jolly Logger and pay him to do it. I have a pretty bad case of IthinkicandothingsIhavenobusinessdoingitis, but what jrcat is describing sounds scary to me

 

[bustedup]

Leaner's can be very, very dangerous, which all of us professional tree fellers know. I always used what my dad taught me 53 yrs ago, he called it the Box cut. I never had a tree chair on me using this simple method, notch leaning side about 1/4 deep, strap cut each side about 1/4 deep. finish with back cut. After it falls you'll see why its call the box cut, perfect square in center of the stump. When using a small saw you'll feel safer using this cut on a bad leaner. I always used, power, high rpm, razor sharp saw when felling. But, theres always that BUT, I've had a leaner get away from me, i couldn't keep up with it when it started to split. Like all you tree fallers know, you know when its time to get out of Dodge, this is when it gets scary. When the tree finishes BB Chairing, it will usually fall three ways, straight back or ether side. As a faller, all you can do is run away from it and pray its not falling your way, run, run for something to get behind. After its all over, your in one piece, you ask yourself, [What the Hell were you doing and thinking] we all know better but we always play with Murphy's Law.
The thing is to do it right, don't take short cuts, then you don't have any of this high drama.

That is a version of the coos bay for larger trees I think.

 

[bustedup]

Jcat are ya trying to swing them away from there lean ? and lay them along the slope ? Is it head lean up hill or side lean or both ?

sorry just curious

 

[tramp bushler]

So I did my first "climbing" today. Probably looked a lot like those pics Tramp posted a while back, but I have no photographic evidence. Anyway, so like my typical amateur self, I was up on my 10ft step ladder with my HT131 pole saw cutting dead limbs from an oak, prolly 25 ft up (wearing my helmet at least).

What belt and spurs do u use?

 

[HuskStihl]

What belt and spurs do u use?

I got the belt at target, not sure what brand, but it keeps my pants up and appears to be leather. I live in the country in Texas, but I don't ride horses, so no spurs. Why do you ask?:biggrin:

 

[jrcat]

Jcat are ya trying to swing them away from there lean ? and lay them along the slope ? Is it head lean up hill or side lean or both ?

sorry just curious

They lean UP hill and all of them (about 6) are red oak averaging 24" on the stump. One has some pretty severe scaring at the stump from 10 years ago by previous loggers that had a skid road next to it.

 

[jrcat]

I got the belt at target, not sure what brand, but it keeps my pants up and appears to be leather. I live in the country in Texas, but I don't ride horses, so no spurs. Why do you ask?:biggrin:

You redneck lol. Do you have the big belt buckle too?

 

[bustedup]

They lean UP hill and all of them (about 6) are red oak averaging 24" on the stump. One has some pretty severe scaring at the stump from 10 years ago by previous loggers that had a skid road next to it.

Watch the scarred s o b and really sound it well. I can't add any more than you been advised except possibly make your back cut a bit higher that may help ya hold it on the stump a bit longer (depending on the face you use)

 

[bustedup]

I got the belt at target, not sure what brand, but it keeps my pants up and appears to be leather. I live in the country in Texas, but I don't ride horses, so no spurs. Why do you ask?:biggrin:

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

[jrcat]

Instinct tells me to put them to the side so they dont slide back down the hill. There is going to be lots of collateral damage either day as long as I dont end up being part of the damage.

 

[bustedup]

Instinct tells me to put them to the side so they dont slide back down the hill. There is going to be lots of collateral damage either day as long as I dont end up being part of the damage.

i guess it a judgement call if ya feel more confident going across the slope then you might be better going with that (I'm not saying do that lol) using a step dutch might help ya there if thats the way ya choose to go

 

[056kid]

I got the belt at target, not sure what brand, but it keeps my pants up and appears to be leather. I live in the country in Texas, but I don't ride horses, so no spurs. Why do you ask?:biggrin:

He's talking about climbing gear...

 

[tramp bushler]

He's workin on gettin tramped or at least ignored

 

[tramp bushler]

HaH!
That applies to sawing, with big inch saws. I ran from almost every tree, sometimes I kept going after I heard the crash.

It's pretty amazing how much crap that got tore off on a trees way down flys back and hits the stump.
I always hated cutting a row of lift trees that it was decided they wouldn't use for the loggin. Nothing to hide behind

 

[bitzer]

Jrcat- are you leaving them tree length or bucking them? I'd be figuring the best way to get the wood out and save out. That's where I'd put them.


Tramp- I don't think he knows any better....