How heavy is the jack to carry? Do you ever wish for a goat to carry all the gear?
Falling pics 11/25/09
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I want one of those little tree savers. I could make jaws drop back east. . . .
Burvol
Bullbuck
1900 new. They are nice. I'm pumped your going back to cuttin' logs brother!
Curlycherry1
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They just pop them in their back pocket.
$1900!??!?!!! Holy heck! Gimmie a Northern Tool bottle jack and a 1/2" hunk of plate steel or better yet Inconel (I use it at work and it is amazing) and I would be good to go for less than 50 bucks!
Burvol
Bullbuck
I think the big set is 80-100 (sure feels like it LOL)
The tree saver is 37lbs and contains one quart of oil in the bottom, all self contained.
We're tough. (Cody looks like he could be a brawler) Ask any of the guys on here. Just goes with the territory. Not saying I'm some macho ass tough guy, but you have to be strong to cut logs all day, and keep the pace and quality up!
Eat real food!!! MEAT & veggies are your friend.
I eat one of those 600 calorie Cosco Chocolate or Poppy seed muffin and a VHC drink (560 calories) at about a half a jug gone. Takes 5 mins to get 1200 calories! Eat my trail mix when I go to get my second jug. Power aid and lots water is what I like to drink. I back off the coffee one notch (but still enough to kill a Rhino) when the heat starts.
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Burvol
Bullbuck
They just pop them in their back pocket.
$1900!??!?!!! Holy heck! Gimmie a Northern Tool bottle jack and a 1/2" hunk of plate steel or better yet Inconel (I use it at work and it is amazing) and I would be good to go for less than 50 bucks!
Not the same. Think about what a tree does as the jack goes up. Those springs aren't for looks. The plate has to be able to travel at the same degree of the butt, all the while still properly lifting. I have used bottle jacks, and they do somewhat work. Pain in the ass though....handle, plate, jack and they wiegh a hell of a lot more for the same rating.
Curlycherry1
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As with all tools there is a reason the expensive ones cost the most. But still $1900, wow, I need to invent me something like that!
I know what you mean about caloric intake. Back when I was really hustling wood I drank 24 bottle of Pepsi per day and sweat every drop of it out. I could eat two Whoppers and 2 orders of fries at lunch. I could pack away a dozen donuts by 10 am too and still I looked like a piece of beef jerky as I had little to no body fat. Things changed when I got out of the woods and they really changed when I hit 40. Now everything does not get burned like it used to.
I can tell Gabe Rygard has not worked recently as a real logger, his belly is a tell tale sign he has spent a bit more time eating than he has logging.
Burvol
Bullbuck
As with all tools there is a reason the expensive ones cost the most. But still $1900, wow, I need to invent me something like that!
I know what you mean about caloric intake. Back when I was really hustling wood I drank 24 bottle of Pepsi per day and sweat every drop of it out. I could eat two Whoppers and 2 orders of fries at lunch. I could pack away a dozen donuts by 10 am too and still I looked like a piece of beef jerky as I had little to no body fat. Things changed when I got out of the woods and they really changed when I hit 40. Now everything does not get burned like it used to.
I can tell Gabe Rygard has not worked recently as a real logger, his belly is a tell tale sign he has spent a bit more time eating than he has logging.
I don't eat much bread, but a lot of Museli cereal with about 7 tablespoons on Adam's natural peanut butter and your good to go! I torture myself in the winter or when I'm off, and eat less. I love to cook. It can be hard. But I like to gain 10lbs. in the winter like a cat and stay warm. Pick up the guitar. Big dinners. Family time. Start chopping at the bit for the next season.
Damn right we are tough(Cody looks like he would break your nose & jaw in a split second and then ask you what you are bleeding for & what you are holding your mouth for..) you get hurt enough trying to do your job every day & you start to not care what all the bastards around you want to do to you. i know thats the way i felt when I was cutting logs.
Hell i dunno, i need to fall some timber so I can bring myself back into halfway reality, cause right now Im GONE......
Coffee? you give me two cups & you had better watch out for the next two days cause I am not sleeping or slowing down. my pops drinks about 3 pots a daay. i need to work me up a tolerance so I can get down like my Pops, that man hasent stopped puttin it down since he got out of a diaper.........
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Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
I've cut down to 2 pots of fresh ground a day. 
Then I got to pound some water, cause it'll dehydrate you like pounding beers.
Then I got to pound some water, cause it'll dehydrate you like pounding beers.
All this food talk is making me hungry and bringing back memories of a lot of good meals I've had to eat. LOL
I remember one time meeting a friend for lunch as he was in town for the day. We decided to go to BK and for lunch I ate two double whoppers and an extra large fry order, all washed down with two fills on their big cup of lemonade. My friend is a great guy and a hard worker, but he drives a desk writing computer code all day. He ate a cheeseburger and half his fries and kept looking at me like I was not human or something. Finally he says "I guess you must need all that food." LOL
All this being out of work is killing my lean figure, I've hit 205lbs, that is the most I've ever been.
Mr. HE
I remember one time meeting a friend for lunch as he was in town for the day. We decided to go to BK and for lunch I ate two double whoppers and an extra large fry order, all washed down with two fills on their big cup of lemonade. My friend is a great guy and a hard worker, but he drives a desk writing computer code all day. He ate a cheeseburger and half his fries and kept looking at me like I was not human or something. Finally he says "I guess you must need all that food." LOL
All this being out of work is killing my lean figure, I've hit 205lbs, that is the most I've ever been.
Mr. HE
You should all listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn. he is is the best guitar player EVER. I know my log cutting buddys can appreciat. . . . . . . . . . . .. .. .. . . . .b. . . . ..
All this food talk is making me hungry and bringing back memories of a lot of good meals I've had to eat. LOL
I remember one time meeting a friend for lunch as he was in town for the day. We decided to go to BK and for lunch I ate two double whoppers and an extra large fry order, all washed down with two fills on their big cup of lemonade. My friend is a great guy and a hard worker, but he drives a desk writing computer code all day. He ate a cheeseburger and half his fries and kept looking at me like I was not human or something. Finally he says "I guess you must need all that food." LOL
All this being out of work is killing my lean figure, I've hit 205lbs, that is the most I've ever been.
Mr. HE
Yes, being on the timber marking crew was the same. I'd put on 20 pounds in the winter, then drop it quickly when we started up. In fact, when we had little slalom races for beer, I liked the extra weight for more propulsion down the hill.
Don't get hurt, that's when the pounds can really pack on.
I wish everybody would get going too.
Greystoke
Tarzan
Thanks fellas. Cody, your spot on as usual :agree2: K&H and 6 lbs. only way to fly on ground that is directional and bad. I have an old 5lbs. Collins that my friend's Dad cut and welded a custon 2lbs. Chunk of killer steel on the end (7lbs. Custom). It's a war club. SOB makes some noise when you take your plugs out
He did such a good job and cleaned the weld up so well you can't tell it's not stock. I have a 4.5 pounder I carry in small wood at times.
That sounds like a hell of an axe! You ever come across any stroh axes? I have one and am always on the lookout for another. I remember when I first started running a bigger axe with 36in. handle I definitely splattered a few wedges and broke a few axe handles...It takes practice, kinda like golf.
Greystoke
Tarzan
According to Madsens the tree saver backpack unit weighs 59 lbs. I am not sure if that is empty of fluid or not...also depends if you are running a longer hose to. My jacks just have the 10 foot hose, but the ones that we used for Columbia had some longer...I remember one set we used had a 50 footer. I rarely carried the whole thing on my back, usually just packing in, then I would just pack the pump on my back and a ram in each hand.
I am definitely no brawler, lol! That was my oldest Brother, and he ended up in prison, so a good lesson for me. You do have to be tough though, especially on rugged ground in bigger timber. One of my buddies says of loggers: "If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough". I would be hurting right now if I had to go cut timber for 6 or 7 hours, 6 days a week. Nothing can prepare you for it. I lift weights in the downtime, and have gotten a heck of a lot stronger, but I have also gained some fat(when I was cutting timber regularly I was around 165 - 175lbs. I am 5' 8". Now I am 195 to 200). Anyhow, it would take me a while to get to my bustin ass mode again. Shoeing horses is the same...I have been working with my buddy the last few days, on a lot of horses, and I have not been doing it much this year before this, now we have been working on a bunch and I feel it today!
One cup of coffee a day, and I try to watch my food intake. When I am working steady I definitely kick it up, but in my downtime if I keep up my intake I have to lift weights, which I take fairly seriously. When I was falling timber full time I had to eat a lot more than I do now.
Greystoke
Tarzan
As with all tools there is a reason the expensive ones cost the most. But still $1900, wow, I need to invent me something like that!
I know what you mean about caloric intake. Back when I was really hustling wood I drank 24 bottle of Pepsi per day and sweat every drop of it out. I could eat two Whoppers and 2 orders of fries at lunch. I could pack away a dozen donuts by 10 am too and still I looked like a piece of beef jerky as I had little to no body fat. Things changed when I got out of the woods and they really changed when I hit 40. Now everything does not get burned like it used to.
I can tell Gabe Rygard has not worked recently as a real logger, his belly is a tell tale sign he has spent a bit more time eating than he has logging.
The tree saver backpack unit is $3295! I got mine used, but just like new for $800. It was a steal, and the only thing I can think is the guy must have been hard up. They are definitely worth the money if you are in big expensive timber, and want to save it out.
Gabe Rygard is what me and a few other timber fallers that I worked with would refer to as a "cab lizard" lol! I have a feelin I am gonna pay for that one...oh well!
Curlycherry1
Addicted to ArboristSite
Cab Lizard, I have not heard that in 20 years.
Just when grapple skidders starting to show up around me the operators of those were called Grapple Apes. Cable skidder operators called the grapple operators soft because they never had to get out of the cab of their skidder.
coastalfaller
ArboristSite Operative
Camp food
The one good thing about camp has got to be the food. Anything you want for breakfast, pancakes, omelettes, french toast, bacon & eggs, cereal, oatmeal, etc, etc! Except on Sundays....that's eggs benny day! Make your lunch in the lunch room, a ton of deli meats, usually left overs from the previous night's dinner, fruit, veggies, yogurt, breads, cheeses, hard boiled eggs, you name it, it's probably there, and yes of course, the pastries! Dinner's are where we really get spoiled. Every Friday alternates between prime rib & steak. The last day of the shift is always a chinese smorgasboard, and let me tell you, it is better than most chinese restaurants I've ate in! The other nights are always a surprise, roast beef, ham, chicken, and of course being on the coast, our fair share of steak & crab, salmon, and halibut! Yes, the food has got to be the best thing about camp, but unfortunately that doesn't make up for the fact that it is still camp!
The one good thing about camp has got to be the food. Anything you want for breakfast, pancakes, omelettes, french toast, bacon & eggs, cereal, oatmeal, etc, etc! Except on Sundays....that's eggs benny day! Make your lunch in the lunch room, a ton of deli meats, usually left overs from the previous night's dinner, fruit, veggies, yogurt, breads, cheeses, hard boiled eggs, you name it, it's probably there, and yes of course, the pastries! Dinner's are where we really get spoiled. Every Friday alternates between prime rib & steak. The last day of the shift is always a chinese smorgasboard, and let me tell you, it is better than most chinese restaurants I've ate in! The other nights are always a surprise, roast beef, ham, chicken, and of course being on the coast, our fair share of steak & crab, salmon, and halibut! Yes, the food has got to be the best thing about camp, but unfortunately that doesn't make up for the fact that it is still camp!
Greystoke
Tarzan
If it were not for good food at camp I don't think a lot of guys would stick around. My first time in camp, the first thing all the old mossbacks that spent every season in camp said when we got there was "is the cook a good one"...he was, although I did long for a greasy mcdonalds meal after 4 months in camp. Now onto "dry" camps..............
coastalfaller
ArboristSite Operative
LOL! Yeah, I hear you on the Mcdonalds! Every now and then we get burger & fries night too! I agree though, w/o good food, it would be a pretty tough sell! On the "dry" camps issue......let's not go there!
