Falling pics 11/25/09

[Trx250r180]

verizon has a a smart phone that's tough and waterproof casio gzone,that's one i have can video under water if you want to with it

 

[tramp bushler]

I put it in a zip lok baggy in a zipped up pocket. But Saturday I need to start on a cell phone holder for my suspenders.
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That tree would have lifted a lot faster with a 5£ and Hard Heads. You see how little wood I kept on it. A 3 1/2 £ Jersey ax. Ain't much of an ax. . But. We were lifting close to 40,000 lbs. I had to move the top 16-17' to get it to tip. . . On a tree that's wide enough plenty of the right wedges and a good ax are fine. .

Jacks are only for if they are really needed.

 

[Joe46]

Brings back bad memories of beating wedges into sky bound bull growth cedars. They weren't worth what that spruce was either:msp_thumbdn:

 

[bitzer]

I've got the G'zone phone. This last one has lasted for 5 or 6 months now. The first three went quickly. Still not impressed with it. When it gets wet from being in my pocket cutting in the rain for hours it takes a while before anyone can hear me talking or I can hear them. Once its dried up its fine though.


Glen- for me I'd take the easy route. Not sure that you had a jack handy, but it sure beats the hell out of beating wedges. Like you said though with the right axe and wedges you can get a lot done. Out of the countless number of trees I've cut I've only jacked twenty or so.

For those wondering why so many wedges it distributes the pressure more evenly and makes it easier to wedge. When you've got all that room and a lot of wedging to do, use it.

####in A I'm beat. 6 high paced hours to get a job finished up this morning. Just wanted to get out of there and relax for the rest of the day. Now on to an hour of weed whackin and 45 min of lawn mowin on the zero turn.

 

[tramp bushler]

Bob. It must be an Alaskan thing. Any girl can pump on a jack. . Takes a man to pound over a heavy tree. I've jacked a bunch of timber. But like I said this tree didn't need one. .
Personally I think your 30 ton the way you use it is a crucial part of your falling kit. You have heavy top trees that don't have a big stump. Perfect spot for a jack. I missed out on some 40 ton Duff Norton jacks at an auction in Fairbanks 2 summers ago. Besides. I wanted Dan to beat some wedges. . He's the one that made me fall it up hill.

 

[Metals406]

I like a real heavy head and a shorter handle. I get a long handle and it feels funny, and I usually chip the handle on the back of a wedge -- specially if I'm trying to drive right-to-left (I'm right handed).

I need to finish the damn thing, but I started making a real heavy ass wedge hammer/axe last year. Not sure how much it's gonna weigh in the end, but the striking face is real broad. :msp_thumbsup:

Kind'a looks like Thor's Hammer too -- which is always cool and manly.

 

[tramp bushler]

A 5 pound is about perfect. I like a 36" or longer handle. Like a 42 if I really need a lot of lift.. The problem is lots of heads need to be ground flat and square when they are new. I prefer the rafting pattern to the Dayton. For beating wedges. I am almost completely ambidextrous when swinging an ax. Just born that way. But I never played baseball ect so no one got to ruin me from one side or the other.

 

[northmanlogging]

My southpaw swing is starting to feel stiff... I blame long falls with quick stops... used to be mostly ambidextrious...

Never had a problem with my short handled 3-1/2 pounder... Then most of my logs are under 36" dia...

 

[Cfaller]

I like a real heavy head and a shorter handle. I get a long handle and it feels funny, and I usually chip the handle on the back of a wedge -- specially if I'm trying to drive right-to-left (I'm right handed).

I need to finish the damn thing, but I started making a real heavy ass wedge hammer/axe last year. Not sure how much it's gonna weigh in the end, but the striking face is real broad. :msp_thumbsup:

Kind'a looks like Thor's Hammer too -- which is always cool and manly.

Nate, you ever build a poundski?:msp_unsure:

 

[bitzer]

Bob. It must be an Alaskan thing. Any girl can pump on a jack. . Takes a man to pound over a heavy tree. I've jacked a bunch of timber. But like I said this tree didn't need one. .
Personally I think your 30 ton the way you use it is a crucial part of your falling kit. You have heavy top trees that don't have a big stump. Perfect spot for a jack. I missed out on some 40 ton Duff Norton jacks at an auction in Fairbanks 2 summers ago. Besides. I wanted Dan to beat some wedges. . He's the one that made me fall it up hill.

Didn't mean to push too hard I guess. I have a tendency to go too far. Just ask my wife. I've also never cut anything nearly that tall either. That's another ball of wax. The only time I jack one is when I really need to. Other than that its beat em over or hopefully swing em a different way. Dan didn't look like he minded too much. I bet it feels good to pound the #### out of something after sittin in a machine most of the time. It does for me anyway.

 

[Metals406]

Nate, you ever build a poundski?:msp_unsure:

I don't think so?

What is that? A polaski modified with a hammer poll on it or sumthin? :dunno:

 

[tramp bushler]

No Bob ; its cool. But that is the reason. On the coast. If your gonna pack a jack with you. You better Need it.
What we needed was a real rafting ax and the right wedges it would have lifted in half the time. I didn't bring mine down there. I only brought my 8" Hard Head. The Hard Heads maximize the blow from my framing ax. They are only lightly textured so they drive easy. I'm not a fan of textured wedges and the vid shows why. .

I've had more wedges in the back of trees and lifted it fairly easy with the right ax.
It's kinda hard to keep Dan in the shovel. And he is an excellent cutter. He's kindof a man of action. Then when he steps in a hole and hurts one of his feet he stays up there. But. I don't know what the average $$$ that each log we put in the decks was. Prolly in the 400-500$ range. Most of the time he had a big smile and a real eager look about him. :msp_smile:

Unless it's Needed men don't jack timber in southeast!.
At least my vid was Real World. Not like a lot of the yt vids of guys just putting in the back cut. Or some guy making a mess of putting in a face. Or pulling the guts out of piano grade wood.

Besides. I really wanted to show how to do it right.

 

[Cfaller]

I don't think so?

What is that? A polaski modified with a hammer poll on it or sumthin? :dunno:

It's a pulaski with the ax end cut down. Then you weld a piece of flat iron to it. The thickness with of the iron will determine the weight you want.

 

[tramp bushler]

Now, before anyone gets to thinking I'm arrogant or a know it all. . I've seen guys do some horrid things when falling a big tree. Like putting in their back cut from both sides and leaving a long skinny post in the center of the stump. Then beating for over an hour. Then have to help them. Its best to wait till they are too exhausted to fight when ya tell them they have to cut thru a couple of their new wedges to get the post cut.
If it would have been me cutting a tower strip. I would have swung it around and had it hit going side ways, down the hill and down. Let it run itself out of steam and munched the top. We would have got the same amount of good logs out of it. But. Oh well.

 

[tramp bushler]

I may be making this worse as I go. I'm home setting in the house with all the shades closed because I got a chip in my eye yesterday and it scratched the heck out of my eye. Its real sunny outside.

Anyway if someone wants to make a cool falling vid for yt. . Do the whole job and do it right. There are some Great vids out of BC on there. . For some reason a lot of the Americans are just back cut queens. :what:

 

[Hddnis]

Probably because outside of a handful of people who work in timber youtubers want to see action and a back cut and crashing tree seem more interesting than learning how to cut timber.




Mr. HE

 

[tramp bushler]

Oh well. I think its stupid. I would rather watch a bare footed Phillipeno rip planks with an 090 . Free hand.

Any idiot can backcut a tree. .
Talk about the dumbing down of America

 

[1270d]

Oh well. I think its stupid. I would rather watch a bare footed Phillipeno rip planks with an 090 . Free hand.

The phillino was pretty impressive wasn't he?

 

[tramp bushler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhWaW0DTaWI&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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Just t stir the pot a little more.

 

[tramp bushler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuZy1tE2OLA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I think this is a new one.