Falling pics 11/25/09

[rwoods]

NM, not to worry. Mitgrating geese or anything else in sight and I will get it hung. Ron

 

[rwoods]

Great.

You can't straighten them in a Press?

If honeycomb like aircraft flooring the structural integrity comes from the honeycomb.

Ron

 

[Skeans]

It sounds like it may not be the bar for me. There's several 3/8 63 gauge rw bars on walmart.com for $134 a piece free shipping. I've had a few cannons and I like them but they are heavy I've had guys tell me sugiharas are the ticket. I've run oregons for years and they seem to wear out as fast as anything else. I've had carltons, cannons, and stihls in between.

I run 32" sugihara most of the time but in that bigger wood I've been in the 36 has fit the ticket better plus I can run the 395 easier to produce just a touch more a day.

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[northmanlogging]

Great.

You can't straighten them in a Press?

Tried hammering them a couple times, now granted they can be staightened if they are not real bad, but the honey comb isn't attached on one side so it acts weird under a hammer or even just tweaking em like with a standard solid bar. I current have 2 that have been ironed out and still cut straight, this pile is junk though if ya wanna give er a try, one of em looks straight but is twisted and wavy in all the wrong ways.

Bonus fire tank in the back ground and ye ole gyppo yarder

 

[hseII]

Tried hammering them a couple times, now granted they can be staightened if they are not real bad, but the honey comb isn't attached on one side so it acts weird under a hammer or even just tweaking em like with a standard solid bar. I current have 2 that have been ironed out and still cut straight, this pile is junk though if ya wanna give er a try, one of em looks straight but is twisted and wavy in all the wrong ways.View attachment 595987

Bonus fire tank in the back ground and ye ole gyppo yarder

I'm going to be going out again for a couple weeks, but I'd love to give it a shot when I get back home.

I'll PM you my info & go from there with the details.

Thank You.

 

[1270d]

One of the saw shops here bought a bar straightening machine this spring. It is the same as the one someone posted here a while back. Sort of a high speed hydraulic press rig. They have been super busy with it doing mostly harvester bars but I would imagine saw bars as well.

It has a part to take out twist. They untwisted two for me last week. 15 bucks a pop. Maybe someone out your way has one North. I was never totally successful hammering twist out so have always pitched them in the scrap pile till now.

 

[Skeans]

One of the saw shops here bought a bar straightening machine this spring. It is the same as the one someone posted here a while back. Sort of a high speed hydraulic press rig. They have been super busy with it doing mostly harvester bars but I would imagine saw bars as well.

It has a part to take out twist. They untwisted two for me last week. 15 bucks a pop. Maybe someone out your way has one North. I was never totally successful hammering twist out so have always pitched them in the scrap pile till now.

Are you talking about my shop press?

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[Skeans]

This setup?

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[northmanlogging]

One of the saw shops here bought a bar straightening machine this spring. It is the same as the one someone posted here a while back. Sort of a high speed hydraulic press rig. They have been super busy with it doing mostly harvester bars but I would imagine saw bars as well.

It has a part to take out twist. They untwisted two for me last week. 15 bucks a pop. Maybe someone out your way has one North. I was never totally successful hammering twist out so have always pitched them in the scrap pile till now.

on a standard bar or Hel anything solid metal, I can do pretty much what ever i wan't to it with just a hammer anvil and a good vice, this hollow stuff doesn't behave though.

The 36" bar my 066 usually wears, i bent that on its first tree, ironed out enough to finish the day, and loved it up a little more when I got home, that was like 2 years ago and its still running fine, got a little burned when I let someone barrow it and consequently roasted the Piston and cylinder as well... but the bar still works.

And the bar on my back up 461 has some hammer marks in it as well. (that poor saw seems to get the **** beat out of it every time I decide to run it to keep things lubed) As it stands its got maybe 80 hrs on it in 3-4 years but one bent bar, broken tank handle, broken chain cover, not to mention all the nicks dings and bruises from rattling around in the back of the crummy... My main saws grips are worn smooth but over all its in better shape (though you can feel the difference in compression now) even though they are only about 4 months between the 2

 

[Skeans]

on a standard bar or Hel anything solid metal, I can do pretty much what ever i wan't to it with just a hammer anvil and a good vice, this hollow stuff doesn't behave though.

The 36" bar my 066 usually wears, i bent that on its first tree, ironed out enough to finish the day, and loved it up a little more when I got home, that was like 2 years ago and its still running fine, got a little burned when I let someone barrow it and consequently roasted the Piston and cylinder as well... but the bar still works.

And the bar on my back up 461 has some hammer marks in it as well. (that poor saw seems to get the **** beat out of it every time I decide to run it to keep things lubed) As it stands its got maybe 80 hrs on it in 3-4 years but one bent bar, broken tank handle, broken chain cover, not to mention all the nicks dings and bruises from rattling around in the back of the crummy... My main saws grips are worn smooth but over all its in better shape (though you can feel the difference in compression now) even though they are only about 4 months between the 2

Damn you're hard on bars and saws, most of my bars are close to 7 years old once I started buying higher quality stuff.

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[northmanlogging]

One got runned over by a skidder (saw was... was... riding shotgun and bailed on me skidder tire 0 saw 1 bar 0 ultimately the dogs won that fight, tore up a sidewall and innertube, bent bar all that was wrong with saw)

the other 7-8 are mostly from trying to swing trees farther than is wise, cutting the off side a little more aggressively then is strictly wise to get some crooked SOB to steer away from a house, tip peeks through to the face side, tree sits on bar... game over man game over.

 

[northmanlogging]

The saw, just seems to be cursed, finds rocks in otherwise sandy ground, random limb snaps off and aims straight for the saw stuff like that, gets picked up and thrown by a barberchair, you know all the freaky timber falling stuff, but it only happens to that one saw? Dropped that saw in a swamp once... after breaking pull start on main saw, so had to spend an hour or so trying to dry out the engine so it would run again to finish the day. never mind fishing it out of brakish water... and knee deep mud.

 

[1270d]

This setup?

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No, this https://www.cowiesequipment.ca/bar-tender. I talked with the guy that builds these on the phone for a while. We don't go through enough bars to make the 5k machine cost effective, but I recommended it to the saw shop and they have been doing good business with it.

We use a regular 50 ton press for our 3/4 pitch stuff

 

[Skeans]

No, this https://www.cowiesequipment.ca/bar-tender. I talked with the guy that builds these on the phone for a while. We don't go through enough bars to make the 5k machine cost effective, but I recommended it to the saw shop and they have been doing good business with it.

We use a regular 50 ton press for our 3/4 pitch stuff

Interesting doesn't look all that hard to build either no reason it couldn't be an air over hydraulic foot port a power to run the cylinder.

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[Trx250r180]

Now to turn round into bunch of squares poor skid loader would not pick up a few of them.Had to drag em with the truck.

 

[KiwiBro]

the other 7-8 are mostly from trying to swing trees farther than is wise, cutting the off side a little more aggressively then is strictly wise to get some crooked SOB to steer away from a house, tip peeks through to the face side, tree sits on bar... game over man game over.

Guilty, your honor.

 

[bitzer]

Monday. And I'm not in the habit of taking selfies but my phone camera no longer flips around.

 

[Trx250r180]

 

[1270d]

Monday. And I'm not in the habit of taking selfies but my phone camera no longer flips around.

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Did that one get your wheels turning?

 

[madhatte]

Definitely a waker-upper!