Falling pics 11/25/09

[Slamm]

Because the trees go where they are supposed to.

This is not directed toward anyone else but you. If that is the case and the trees always go where they are suppose to, then why not just stand there holding your F'ing saw???????????????

You are a complete idiot,

Sam

 

[forestryworks]

Just an observation:

What is it with, or why do some cutters set their saws down next to a falling tree/ the stump?

I personally take my saw to a hopefully safer area. ..... like with me.

Just wondering,

Sam

In that video I set my saw down behind a smaller tree and behind a good sized rock (hidden by the stump).

With that said, whether I set my saw in a safe spot, behind the stump, or take it with me is mostly gut feeling.

Saws are replaceable.

 

[RandyMac]

I took a step or two, set the saw down in case I really needed to run. I do remember leaving a heavy saw on the stump, in the backcut. I had cut myself into a corner, there wasn't time or the room to pull the whole thing out. I made sure it wasn't going with the hingewood and walked away, it sat and idled through the whole thing.

 

[Slamm]

I figured it was for safety, but after watching this and several other videos of seemingly simple falling cuts and honest trees on flat ground, just going over, it seems that many/several west coast cutters were dropping their saws like they were suddenly hot potatoes, LOL. While I understand that the saw is replaceable, I take mine with me, crap happens and usually right around the stump area. Just wondering, as I have never seen someone purposely leave the saws behind like I have/do in some of these videos.

Thanks, later,

Sam

 

[Thorcw]

I was told that Weyco will can a faller who doesn't set their saw down. Since a lot of the fallers around here work for different landowners, they like to stay in practice. Production cutting out here is a different world.

I know im not a from the area but why is this ?

 

[Gologit]

With that said, whether I set my saw in a safe spot, behind the stump, or take it with me is mostly gut feeling.

Saws are replaceable.

Exactly. I'll usually keep my saw with me but there's been a few times when I've just dumped it. I run faster that way.

 

[Gologit]

I know im not a from the area but why is this ?

Terrain, timber, and the expectation that you'll get a sufficient amount of wood on the ground to earn your keep. All of these are variables. Sometimes they vary from minute to minute. But they always vary.

The main thing is going home every day...under your own power. If you have to occasionally dump a saw to do that it's a fair enough trade.

A saw is just a hunk of machinery. They make more of them every day.

 

[PB]

Please educate this non-forester/logger, why are you cutting snags? Why would someone pay you to cut trees that aren't worth much? Reduce insect pressure, fire prevention, safety, or is there some market for wood like that?

Up here in New England there is a completely different approach to logging than out west or even a few states down.

 

[056kid]

This is not directed toward anyone else but you. If that is the case and the trees always go where they are suppose to, then why not just stand there holding your F'ing saw???????????????

You are a complete idiot,

Sam

Im shattered that you think that

but to answer your smart assery, because a broke off limb doesn't care where the tree falls, its going down, the tree isn't the only danger so getting out quick is always good. You know that. .
I keep my saw with me so I'm not too concerned..

 

[Thorcw]

Terrain, timber, and the expectation that you'll get a sufficient amount of wood on the ground to earn your keep. All of these are variables. Sometimes they vary from minute to minute. But they always vary.

The main thing is going home every day...under your own power. If you have to occasionally dump a saw to do that it's a fair enough trade.

A saw is just a hunk of machinery. They make more of them every day.

So Weyco will fire you if you walk away from the tree with the saw?

 

[Gologit]

I don't know. I've never worked for Weyco. They don't own any ground in the part of the country I usually cover. Slowp or one of the others from that area might have a better answer.

It's hard to believe, though, that they'd make and enforce such a hard and fast rule. If you trust a guy enough to have him out falling timber it seems to me you'd trust him enough to know when to leave or carry a saw.

 

[Slamm]

I don't know. I've never worked for Weyco. They don't own any ground in the part of the country I usually cover. Slowp or one of the others from that area might have a better answer.

It's hard to believe, though, that they'd make and enforce such a hard and fast rule. If you trust a guy enough to have him out falling timber it seems to me you'd trust him enough to know when to leave or carry a saw.

I agree with your last paragraph.

Man I don't think I could consciously leave a saw behind, at least not one that I paid for, LOL.

I mean, the trees you guys cut out west are like huge telephone poles, and I would see guys cutting these huge trees down, that take about 5 minutes from the time they release to the time they hit the ground and the cutter just drops the running saw and runs like a scalded dog or checking 40 yard dash times. On those types of trees I would just get back with my saw in hand, as the trees aren't like the huge canopy stuff we have around here that the tops are all intertwined and it literally rains branches for awhile afterwards, not that you guys don't have your moment too. I guess, its just different .... which doesn't have to make it right or wrong, just different.

Later,

Sam

 

[stihl sawing]

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Totally awesome video, Thanks for posting.

 

[forestryworks]

Please educate this non-forester/logger, why are you cutting snags? Why would someone pay you to cut trees that aren't worth much? Reduce insect pressure, fire prevention, safety, or is there some market for wood like that?

Up here in New England there is a completely different approach to logging than out west or even a few states down.

Hazard tree removal in a state park.

 

[PB]

Hazard tree removal in a state park.

Makes sense, thanks.

 

[stihl sawing]

Hazard tree removal in a state park.

They do that here in parks, A good thing where there are people all the time. Those old rotten trees could fall on anything, Cars, Campers, People ect.....The beetles have killed a lot of pines around here. They mark them with red paint and cut them later when no one is in that area.

 

[forestryworks]

They do that here in parks, A good thing where there are people all the time. Those old rotten trees could fall on anything, Cars, Campers, People ect.....The beetles have killed a lot of pines around here. They mark them with red paint and cut them later when no one is in that area.

I haven't seen any beetle kill in this area. Most of the snags I'm cutting are left over from the bad ice storms of 2000 and 2007 or they died of some other cause.

The beetle kill stuff must be further south, and then across the line, further east into your state.

Maybe I could find work there for the winter break.

 

[slowp]

I can't confirm the Weyco thing, but one guy said he wouldn't cut on their land anymore because of it. They are a huge huge conglomeration and have rules upon rules. From what I understand, it is their way or the highway.
No debating. They can find plenty of people to work for them.

Slamm, those big old telephone poles will sometimes hit an alder or other springy thing on the way down, then things can get a bit more complicated.
Sometimes the top will break out, or some limbs come down. What I showed was flat ground, which is rare. Add some steep ground and it gets a bit more complicated.

In our thinnings, the lay of the wood is so important. If a faller doesn't do that right, the leave trees will get all banged up. Cable logging--Skyline, only works in straight lines.

 

[stihl sawing]

I haven't seen any beetle kill in this area. Most of the snags I'm cutting are left over from the bad ice storms of 2000 and 2007 or they died of some other cause.

The beetle kill stuff must be further south, and then across the line, further east into your state.

Maybe I could find work there for the winter break.

They have a lot of trees marked in the parks around here, Most of the trees died last year. I figured it was beetles, I really don't know what killed them. Some of them are huge pines. You have a really neat job. Bet you enjoy going to work everyday.

 

[Metals406]

They have a lot of trees marked in the parks around here, Most of the trees died last year. I figured it was beetles, I really don't know what killed them. Some of them are huge pines. You have a really neat job. Bet you enjoy going to work everyday.

That's the coolest part, he ain't getting paid. He volunteers to cut the trees for the park. . . They pick up some of his expenses.