Fire him or make him pay then fire him...

[sgreanbeans]

@beans, man, thats hard on so many levels, My heart truly goes out to ya. But if it means anything to ya, one thing Ive learned along time ago, NEVER start a motor at a tree co without checking the oil, EVER! The only co's Ive been at that have blown motors, are the ones that dont follow that rule. One time , for a very short time, I worked for this pothead idiot. One day I told him I was going to check the oil on his bucket, he told me dont, its fine. I checked it anyway, and it was 2+ quarts low. A week or so later, same thing happened with the clam, but he refused to let me check it. Had little to no respect for the guy, cuz he was a trash pile druggie, who never paid on time, if he paid, later that day th motor blew cuz there was no oil. My chipper hasnt used a drop of oil since it was changed in March, gettin close to due for a change now, But I still check it at the first start on the day, everyday. You all know why.

yur right, I do that on the big trucks, but thought I would be ok on the small ones. Well, that will be the rule from now on. We went back and checked the others, good thing, all really low, which means that he hadn't done it the week before either. Don't know what to say about it, wife thinks he was doing it on purpose! I think he was just gaffing it off. He showed, I blew up and now he is looking for work.

 

[TreeAce]

How funny that I replied to this thread, yesterday, my 2006 F-250 AD blew up. Motor is seized, why, no oil. On Monday, I had Jon (Wild Thing) Do maintenance on all the trucks, said he put 2 qts in it. No way he put any oil at all, had several mechanecks over last night to confirm my suspicions. We check the oil pan, empty, check the water in case there is a crack, good to go, It was not blowing any smoke, so the rings are not bad, it is not leaking any where, so where did it go, did someone steal it?, nah, just trusted some one, who is supposed to be super wrench, self proclaimed of course. Ultimately this falls on me, I should have inspected what I expected, and I didn't, and now it will cost me. Jon will be fired in about 30 minutes, as If he did what he said he did, I would still have my truck, but he didn't and he lied about it. If I cannot trust him to do a simple task like that, then I cant trust him at all. I am sure he had the right intent, however, that day, I had al 4 guys working on different things at the shop, while I was doing bids, the other three told me that Jon was on his phone most of the time texting, so Im sure he was going to, but got distracted and forgot, then told me he did. So now I need to go thru all my stuff that he worked on to make sure that nothing else is gonna blow, because he cant keep his hands off his phone.

sgreanbean....man that sucks. BAD. sorry to hear it. I HATE employees on cell phones on my time. I mean I FREAKN DESPISE IT!! Just hearing about this gets me fired up.

 

[TreeAce]

I really REALLY HATE employees texting when they are supposed to be freakn working and PAYING ATTENTION to WTF is going on. I had some problems with it last summer. I put my foot down hard on that ****. I keep on it to....texts on my jobs best be few n far between.

 

[prentice110]

@Beans and every other owner reading. You gotta do what you gotta do. Sux that we have to pay people to neglect our hard earned toys, and not do there job, every time we turn our backs. How many times have you had to point fingers to the newbie with the grease gun, just to look later and see the most crucial zerk dry , or dirt caked from the LAST greaseing. However, Ive learned the hard way, too many times, you want it done right you.....? -------------@ACE, I EFFIN HATE THAT TOO!!!! I dont pay you to gab , drag the brush, shut the EFFIN fone off, or get the ####!!!! out of here!!!! If you wanna play fone tag, Im gonna ROUGH estimate MY WAY how much of MY time YOU STOLE and take it out of your pay. ####ING hate those things. Cell fone are the devil. Gotta love facebook email updates on the droid. YOUR FIRED!!!!!!!!!

 

[sgreanbeans]

Found out after the fact, that he was on it all the time, boys didn't want to say anything for fear of retaliation from him. They told me, that as soon as I would leave, he would change his tone and start being an A hole. On my crew, no one is above a broom, if you are done with your responsibility, then you help the others. He would put up his gear and watch them load. Oh-well, water under the bridge now, he will never be back. Figured he would run back to Asplundh, last nite, at a grad party, my first trainee, Nick, who is NO. 2 over there, told me that the GF wont have him back, as he wouldn't get his certs required? Dude told me that he had them all, so he lied! for no reason! Back to tree topping daddy for him.

 

[Rftreeman]

all this talk about phones reminds me of an MP3 player episode I had, I have a friend that is in the business and I was helping him out and his son was with us and kept on putting in his ear phones to listen to whatever it was and he was told several times to take them out because he couldn't hear us talking to him so they ended up getting yanked out and the player thrown on the ground and then a size 12 boot went down on it a few times.....problem solved...lol..


update on the chipper, got it back together and it seems to be working fine, $196 for blades and $60 for machine shop work plus my time to fix it....

 

[prentice110]

Found out after the fact, that he was on it all the time, boys didn't want to say anything for fear of retaliation from him. They told me, that as soon as I would leave, he would change his tone and start being an A hole. On my crew, no one is above a broom, if you are done with your responsibility, then you help the others. He would put up his gear and watch them load. Oh-well, water under the bridge now, he will never be back. Figured he would run back to Asplundh, last nite, at a grad party, my first trainee, Nick, who is NO. 2 over there, told me that the GF wont have him back, as he wouldn't get his certs required? Dude told me that he had them all, so he lied! for no reason! Back to tree topping daddy for him.

It sux for me to admit, but Ive always had an employer mind. When I worked with clock milkers, or pile polishers, it pisses me off and I tattle. Its not about payday for me. I wanna get done and on to the next one, or get home. Fireman may let on about when I worked for him. I forwarded texts from grunties to the boss when they said eff that hes not here were gonna show up late. I dont get paid to wait.

all this talk about phones reminds me of an MP3 player episode I had, I have a friend that is in the business and I was helping him out and his son was with us and kept on putting in his ear phones to listen to whatever it was and he was told several times to take them out because he couldn't hear us talking to him so they ended up getting yanked out and the player thrown on the ground and then a size 12 boot went down on it a few times.....problem solved...lol..


update on the chipper, got it back together and it seems to be working fine, $196 for blades and $60 for machine shop work plus my time to fix it....

+1 on the boot stompin!!!!! The old timer I sub for got a set of those A O Saftey radio headphones. Keep yelling at him that Im gonna break em on him cuz hes gonna Ef up a cut and he wont here me yell. PS, you got off easy on the chipper. Good luck to ya. wish you well and above all, be safe!