firewood tractors

[rwoods]

I’m just guessing. This is the second time this winter. Fires up easily as always then in a few seconds it quits. Won’t restart until you crank and crank. After a while (more than my battery will last), it will sputter and spits so long as you keep the starter spinning; eventually it will keep running spewing white smoke for a while. After it is gets warm it runs like a top.

Temperature was 27. By the time I got it started it was probably 37. Tractor has been in the shade for a few weeks - got down in the teens but also up to 60 in that time.

Ron

 

[al-k]

I had a old 680 case backhoe like that. One little shot of starting fluid and that was it. Don't use a lot if you do this.

 

[alleyyooper]

I would get a jug of fuel anti Gell and follow the instructions and put that in the tank.

Al

 

[NCPABill]

I had my little Deere in the woods today. Worked fine except the 1 1/2 hours it took to crank it and keep it running. Fuel must have gelled in the low temperatures. Ran the battery down trying to restart it after it quickly ran through the flowing fuel. Ron

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Here in Northern Pennsylvania, you'd be money ahead to change the fuel filter. Use some power service "red" in the new filter to clean out the gel.

Good luck!

 

[NCPABill]

We have filled 2 mesh bags to start with. The wood is stacked so as to not damage the bags. The bags are very tough and I hope that they will last a few years.
I set the skid with the bag on it on top of another not so good skid so the good skid doesn't freeze to the ground or rot.

Here's an American made? local to me manufacturer of bags too. http://www.dinobags.com/firewood-bags.

They are good community members too!

 

[Woodchuck71]

What he said.Change your fuel filters often with this ULS Diesel.
I know in my truck,haven't gelled in 20 some years,bought a new pete in 2013,28°(YES!!),I sat on the side of the road.
Explained to me (and I have no science to back this claim up),the filters are so much finer and once they gel the waxy substance(paraffin? ) won't clean out again.
Now always keep spare ones and a wrench with me.

 

[Woodchuck71]

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Here in Northern Pennsylvania, you'd be money ahead to change the fuel filter. Use some power service "red" in the new filter to clean out the gel.

Good luck!

YES

 

[rwoods]

Thanks, guys. What is power service red? A fuel treatment available at the parts store? I haven’t had a diesel “freeze up” since 1984. I was pretty unhappy yesterday.

Ron

 

[Ryan'smilling]

Thanks, guys. What is power service red? A fuel treatment available at the parts store? I haven’t had a diesel “freeze up” since 1984. I was pretty unhappy yesterday.

Ron

Power service is a pretty good additive for diesel. It comes in a white bottle for preventative use and is blended in your fuel supply or tank. They also make a red bottle for use once the gelling has already occurred.

This stuff:

 

[alleyyooper]

Some call it red but it is really called 911. Auto parts people would give you a roll eye look asking for power service red.

Al

 

[farmer steve]

Thanks, guys. What is power service red? A fuel treatment available at the parts store? I haven’t had a diesel “freeze up” since 1984. I was pretty unhappy yesterday.

Ron

Morning Ron. just curious as to what diesel fuel you are using. green,red(off road) or something else. i know up this way the green pump fuel is treated with anti-gel in the winter. Same with #2 heating oil where tanks are outside. + 1 on mayge a fuel filter change. when was the last time glow plugs were replaced? sorry for all the questions but i know fuel problems are a pita. iv'e had them.

 

[hseII]

My little Firewood Tractor.

You just can see her.

She’s a sweet little short Japanese Girl.


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[rwoods]

Morning Ron. just curious as to what diesel fuel you are using. green,red(off road) or something else. i know up this way the green pump fuel is treated with anti-gel in the winter. Same with #2 heating oil where tanks are outside. + 1 on mayge a fuel filter change. when was the last time glow plugs were replaced? sorry for all the questions but i know fuel problems are a pita. iv'e had them.

Green. Our winter has been pretty mild so I doubt it was a winter blend. This model Yanmar doesn’t have glow plugs. Intake air is heated somehow.

Fuel in the tank is probably from the same batch the last time this happened.

Ron p

 

[dancan]

No glow on mine either , it's a grid heater that will preheat the diesel , mine doesn't work so when the temps are 25 and below I'll give it a quick sniff of quick start .

 

[Jimmy in NC]

Green. Our winter has been pretty mild so I doubt it was a winter blend. This model Yanmar doesn’t have glow plugs. Intake air is heated somehow.

Fuel in the tank is probably from the same batch the last time this happened.

Ron p

Yanmar ..well most of the older Yanmars (including mine) actually start a small diesel fire in the intake to heat the incoming air. It's a neat setup that requires very little amperage and is pretty simple. The same setup is used in marine engines too.

https://www.hoyetractor.com/thermostart.htm


My little tractor....no firewood duty here though.

 

[grizz55chev]

I’m just guessing. This is the second time this winter. Fires up easily as always then in a few seconds it quits. Won’t restart until you crank and crank. After a while (more than my battery will last), it will sputter and spits so long as you keep the starter spinning; eventually it will keep running spewing white smoke for a while. After it is gets warm it runs like a top.

Temperature was 27. By the time I got it started it was probably 37. Tractor has been in the shade for a few weeks - got down in the teens but also up to 60 in that time.

Ron

Change the fuel filter, I experienced these very same symptoms on my diesel generator. The filter cured it.

 

[rwoods]

Yanmar ..well most of the older Yanmars (including mine) actually start a small diesel fire in the intake to heat the incoming air. It's a neat setup that requires very little amperage and is pretty simple. The same setup is used in marine engines too.

https://www.hoyetractor.com/thermostart.htm


My little tractor....no firewood duty here though.

Good info. Like the 650. My first tractor was a 750. Sold it and all my attachments to finance 3rd baby 27 years ago.
It saw a little personal logging duty. I managed to break one of the draft arms off skidding. Ron

 

[rwoods]

Change the fuel filter, I experienced these very same symptoms on my diesel generator. The filter cured it.

On the agenda, thanks. Ron

 

[grizz55chev]

On the agenda, thanks. Ron

My old generator was bought used 7 yrs ago, it has over 10k on the hrs. meter, I just changed the oil, set the valves and cleaned the fuel filter, I’m still looking for a new one. It’s a 2001 model of a yanmar clone, and has served me well when the power goes off! It uses less than half the fuel that my old gas geny did, and runs all day on about 2 gal of fuel! I only started researching the maintenance on it when it became harder to start, it’s that reliable!

 

[dave_dj1]

Here's my new toy...umm I mean firewood tractor