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My name is Owen, and I am a high school student from the Midwest. I joined this website to prepare for my new role as ground crew at a medium-large tree company. Do I need to know anything before heading to my first job in a few days? Any help is appreciated!
 
My name is Owen, and I am a high school student from the Midwest. I joined this website to prepare for my new role as ground crew at a medium-large tree company. Do I need to know anything before heading to my first job in a few days? Any help is appreciated!

I imagine it's like any other job:

1. Work hard
2. Safety
3. Listen and do
4. Be a sponge
 
Whatever you do, don't say "I think we ought to ...." or "Why don't we/you ..." after the rigging line is attached and the climber is about to start the saw. It's hard to explain, but that could get you fired. :)

And forget the [low] pay and chronic tiredness and pain. You're becoming a badass, and it's hard to put an hourly rate or a price on that.

This thread could get long.
 
Don't get hit with trees being cut, always look up when you move in to pick up brush or logs.
Don't stick your hands or feet in the in feed mouth of the chipper.
Don't pretend to be raking while the others are picking up logs and dragging brush, help them.
Don't complain!
 
All good answers, but you said a medium size or so 'Company", I would think a respectable and professional company would have an "On Boarding' process. We hire guys all the time but we set them up with everything they need to know and what is expected along with our training.
It was a beautiful day! :dancing:
Jeff
 
I'm not a tree guy but this advice comes from 30 years in the building trades. I think there are some parallels:
-Start time isn't when you show up. Start time is when you have all the tools and materials laid out and you are working. So if you are told, "We start at 8 am" you need to account for travel and set up time. Quitting time works the same way. And don't tell your boss when it's quitting time. He will tell you.

-Always be busy. If you don't know what to do, ask. But don't be afraid to be a self starter. There is always something that can be cleaned up, put away, made ready, etc.

-There is a fine line between being ready to help vs getting in the way. Sometimes people can be rude about it. You might get yelled at. Don't get discouraged. Stick with it and you will figure out the workflow. This is part of paying your dues. If you are the guy who stands around waiting to be told, the crew will come to resent you. If you are the guy always ready to lend a hand, they will come to respect you.

-Leave your phone in the car if you drive yourself to the site. Leave it in your lunchbox if you are driven by the crew.

-Be vigilant about safety. Not just for yourself but for everyone. It's not just the obvious things like saws and falling objects. Look for trip hazards, boards with nails, broken safety equipment, etc. Those little details are going to be your responsibility as the grunt. I guarantee you if someone trips over a tool they are going to look straight at you with murder in their eyes.

-Remember "Quiet Coyote". Mouth shut, ears open.
 
If someone yells HEADACHE! Don't laugh and look up. That means something is heading your way at 32' per second squared. Know where you are in relation to your climber. Never stand directly under him. I've seen climbers drop saws, missed the ri g on the saddle and let go, it happens.
 
Theres no shame in walking off the job if the boss refuses to do stuff the correct or safe way, ANSI Z133 is the standards book for tree work, if they refuse to acknowledge it, RUN DON'T WALK, other than that, what @lone wolf said and you will be fine


show up early, stay off the phone, STAY HYDRATED, I often stop every 30 minutes and take a little break to have a bottle of water, I've had heatstroke once and came really close 3 times this year, it is NOT something you want, and can kill you without you even knowing you have it, if you ever feel lightheaded STOP AND DRINK, headache? STOP AND DRINK, colors and sound going away, you went too far, way too far, if its above 80 degrees expect to drink a full case of water each and every day, if your piss is anything but clear, start pounding water till its clear, and continue to drink water after work

don't drink energy drinks, and if you drink coffee limit yourself to one cup a day, and avoid crap like twinkies and donuts, tree work will possibly be the most work and exertion you have ever experienced, and it is not to be taken lightly

when feeding the chipper, stand to the side and feed one limb at a time, feeding multiple limbs is a quick way to chip yourself, also, gauntlet gloves are a no-go, I straight up banned leather gloves entirely on my jobs if we are chipping, they will not tear if they are snagged, cheap hardy cloth gloves are good, or just barehand everything

watch your steps for dog sh*t and trip hazards, keep the area behind the chipper clean, and don't be the first one to grab the rake or blower, as the new guy they are going to expect you to be doing the work they don't want, get to picking up sticks, and little stuff like offering to clean the truck windows while they are fueling up will go a LONG way

like rarefish said, if you hear the words "Headache" or "heads up" the only appropriate response is to get everyone out from under the dropzone and yell "ALL CLEAR" once everyone is in a safe spot

and, EVERYONE on a job has the right to issue a stop work order over any safety concerns, the rest of the crew may not agree, but if you see something unsafe, part of your job is to make sure it's rectified

I had a job earlier this year, total **** show from the beginning, subcontracting my company to another for a "1 day simple oak removal" that turned into 3 days of rigging, I got hit in the head because the owner of the other company pulled the limb I was lowering onto my lowering line locking it up, I had to go under to free it and a limb broke out and hit me, almost went to the hospital for it, the next day we are dropping the tree, rope tied to the spar, tying a rope to his truck to pull it, I refused to tie the rope to his ball hitch and told him I would be right back with my pintle hitch (which locks the rope in place, and is rated way higher), he told me no, I issued a stop work order until he agreed, my whole company got fired the next day because we refused to play his stupid game of "who gets to die today and who pays for their funeral?"



long winded post, I could go on and on, im willing to stop by if you have any more questions, im gonna stop here before I fill the thread with stuff nobody will read LOL
 
Wear the right atire. A backlava and clear eye protection because you'll be working with brush that can poke you in the face and eye. Thick coat and pants.
 
Theres no shame in walking off the job if the boss refuses to do stuff the correct or safe way, ANSI Z133 is the standards book for tree work, if they refuse to acknowledge it, RUN DON'T WALK, other than that, what @lone wolf said and you will be fine


show up early, stay off the phone, STAY HYDRATED, I often stop every 30 minutes and take a little break to have a bottle of water, I've had heatstroke once and came really close 3 times this year, it is NOT something you want, and can kill you without you even knowing you have it, if you ever feel lightheaded STOP AND DRINK, headache? STOP AND DRINK, colors and sound going away, you went too far, way too far, if its above 80 degrees expect to drink a full case of water each and every day, if your piss is anything but clear, start pounding water till its clear, and continue to drink water after work

don't drink energy drinks, and if you drink coffee limit yourself to one cup a day, and avoid crap like twinkies and donuts, tree work will possibly be the most work and exertion you have ever experienced, and it is not to be taken lightly

when feeding the chipper, stand to the side and feed one limb at a time, feeding multiple limbs is a quick way to chip yourself, also, gauntlet gloves are a no-go, I straight up banned leather gloves entirely on my jobs if we are chipping, they will not tear if they are snagged, cheap hardy cloth gloves are good, or just barehand everything

watch your steps for dog sh*t and trip hazards, keep the area behind the chipper clean, and don't be the first one to grab the rake or blower, as the new guy they are going to expect you to be doing the work they don't want, get to picking up sticks, and little stuff like offering to clean the truck windows while they are fueling up will go a LONG way

like rarefish said, if you hear the words "Headache" or "heads up" the only appropriate response is to get everyone out from under the dropzone and yell "ALL CLEAR" once everyone is in a safe spot

and, EVERYONE on a job has the right to issue a stop work order over any safety concerns, the rest of the crew may not agree, but if you see something unsafe, part of your job is to make sure it's rectified

I had a job earlier this year, total **** show from the beginning, subcontracting my company to another for a "1 day simple oak removal" that turned into 3 days of rigging, I got hit in the head because the owner of the other company pulled the limb I was lowering onto my lowering line locking it up, I had to go under to free it and a limb broke out and hit me, almost went to the hospital for it, the next day we are dropping the tree, rope tied to the spar, tying a rope to his truck to pull it, I refused to tie the rope to his ball hitch and told him I would be right back with my pintle hitch (which locks the rope in place, and is rated way higher), he told me no, I issued a stop work order until he agreed, my whole company got fired the next day because we refused to play his stupid game of "who gets to die today and who pays for their funeral?"



long winded post, I could go on and on, im willing to stop by if you have any more questions, im gonna stop here before I fill the thread with stuff nobody will read LOL
I read it and appreciate it I’m trying to get into being and arborist and eventually want to be ISA certified so I’m glad you put your input in it helped
 
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