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Gotta be smart to be a teacher, pretty or cheap to be a prostitute, and either pretty or rich to get married. How many years did you say you worked worked at the better paying, male dominated job?
I hope FLHX Storm comes back too, she posted some good pics and provided good information. And I really don't care if a poster is a man or a woman as long as they post useful info or comments. Sometimes when reading a thread a person just needs to skip over it and carry on, some people just can't do that.
I hope FLHX Storm comes back too, she posted some good pics and provided good information. And I really don't care if a poster is a man or a woman as long as they post useful info or comments. Sometimes when reading a thread a person just needs to skip over it and carry on, some people just can't do that.
The Lady was a hard working woman, How many women you know that does what she could do. She had some awesome pics and stories of how she done it. I hope nothing is wrong. It's been four days since the E-mail and nothing.
esp after she said she went thru a bad motorcycle accident...
Many people (including and especially women) disagree about what "feminism" or "modern feminism" should be and whether certain manifestations have gone too far or not far enough. This, however, is a topic for the political forum, IMO. Let's leave it there.
As for being away from AS for a while, I'm not too concerned unless I hear something concrete. For instance, I was away for a while when my father was in the hospital. On another occasion, I had a lot of work to do away from timber & firewood. Yet another time I came down with MRSA pneumonia, which kept me away from a lot of activity for a couple months.
As for being away from AS for a while, I'm not too concerned unless I hear something concrete. For instance, I was away for a while when my father was in the hospital. On another occasion, I had a lot of work to do away from timber & firewood. Yet another time I came down with MRSA pneumonia, which kept me away from a lot of activity for a couple months.
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I have friends who are women.
Well said. Their message is the same wherever they go.
One of the best Cat-skinners I know is a woman. She has a sister almost as good as she is. Both of them cut grade by eye better than some of the guys do with survey stakes. And I'm not talking about flat ground tiny-timber play Cats either. I think the smallest Cat they have is a D6 and they're usually on 8s or 9s. Those two gals are the ones we want when we're pioneering a road along a cliff or anything involving steep ground.
And for you guys out there that scoff at women doing a job like that because it's not traditionally feminine..they're both married, have kids, and they're good cooks besides.
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Some of the people I would most like to spent a week on a deserted island with are women. There is nothing wrong with women in the workplace, in fact I've been with a few women in the workplace and they did great.
Just thought I'd add that my wife is a woman and I'd have it no other way. 
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How is being self reliant anything like working in the trades? Just because I can bake cookies does not mean I can, or should, or want, to be a baker. I have seen many nice competent trades women, but they are not that womanly. I have seen many competent professional men, and they aren't that manly. To each there own, to each there preference, there is someone out there for everyone. Oh ya, Storm was awesome.
That's just it. Why should I be womanly while working at a dirty, sweaty, hard job? Must I wear eye make up and appear feminine? Wear tight clothes? Or should I dress like the guys, in clothes that are appropriate for the job?
Somebody wanted to know how long I worked at it? 32 years. Started out on a tree planting crew. Then got a job and you'll love this, because the Forest Service had to hire women, and that's what I was told. I was told to only plan on working that one summer because we would not be able to do the job and they could get rid of us. I was 20, and it was 1976. Well, we could keep up with the boys and get the same production, and we were not gotten rid of. Then repeated marking and cruising and fire fighting. I had one job where we got dumped out of a helicopter occasionally to go find plots in the woods. We had some long hike outs and I wasn't so good at that.
Then I got some good boots, and things were better. I still can rarely buy work boots off the shelf. Gotta have them made.
Let me see, then got my first permanent job--insurance available on another timber marking and cruising crew. I also was the first woman to work more than an hour on a thinning crew. That was running a saw all day thinning trees out, day after day. I kept up with the guys after a week of trying to figure out how. I found out just a few years ago that they had a betting pool on how many hours I'd last on the first day. We'd thin in the late winter/early spring or late fall, when the snow was too deep to mark timber.
Then moved to a higher paying gig basically doing the same thing. Then got the most interesting job as what the loggers call, The Forester and checked logging operations --that was during the days when the old growth was hitting the ground and there was very little skidder logging going on here--it was mostly high lead (yarder). Had a few close calls because we were pretty much just given several folders with contracts and told to go out and check on stuff. Repeat with some moving around the country and a stint as a road engineer, which I was not good at so went back to forester work when logging started up a bit more and the retirements started hitting big time. I got tired of long walks or a long time spent wielding a pulaski (that's a fire tool with an axe blade on one side and a narrow hoey thing on the other side of the blade) so I got certified as a bucker. I'd go clear the brush out of a road if I had a couple hours after walking and checking logging units.
My feet went bad and it started taking longer to heal up after twisting ankles and stuff. The hooktenders (loggers who rig up the trees) were getting younger and I was getting older. I reached the age when I could retire, and I did. Here's a picture from one of the last units I worked on, and I didn't really consider this to be horribly steep ground, we had steeper.
Yes, I have a chip on my shoulder. You would too. A few of the men in the Forest Service were awful. Funny, the loggers actually behaved more professionally. That's kind of backwards as to what you would think.
Is that enough?
More pictures. Fat little old me bucking some alder out of a road. I enjoyed going out once in a while with the road crew after storms. My clothes are much too clean. That's Twinkle, the work saw I used.
Oh, I cut my firewood as do most retired folks around here. One of my projects right now is TSI (timber stand improvement) on my little chunk of land. I am dumping the ratty alders and cutting them up for firewood. They are leaning, as most alder does, and I just do what I've learned from loggers, make the face cut deep, and make the back cut fast. They are not big, they are not impressive, they are ratty alders. They go where they lean.
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That's just what I was thinking. You wear tight skirts and make up, would that really help. Attitude is attitude. Nothing would change. You probably fit just right where you are. So why would you ever try to be something you're not. Just a "fat little old you" is what you are so why be anything else. That is unless it matters.
Because having guys like you accusing and questioning and condemning what you assume via the internet, you've never even met me, or Storm, is tiresome and obnoxious.
Keep your stereotypes to yourself.
What are your woods credentials? How do you justify any advice you've given on here? How do we know you are who you claim to be? You might could be one of them pretty boys for all we know. Not that it matters. Are you an internet psychologist? See, it works both ways. Oh my, you might could be a lumberjack!!
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Well said. Their message is the same wherever they go.
One of the best Cat-skinners I know is a woman. She has a sister almost as good as she is. Both of them cut grade by eye better than some of the guys do with survey stakes. And I'm not talking about flat ground tiny-timber play Cats either. I think the smallest Cat they have is a D6 and they're usually on 8s or 9s. Those two gals are the ones we want when we're pioneering a road along a cliff or anything involving steep ground.
And for you guys out there that scoff at women doing a job like that because it's not traditionally feminine..they're both married, have kids, and they're good cooks besides.
I know in the strip mines that a lot of the companies are hiring mostly women to drive the large haul trucks my company sells to them. When your truck hauls 400 tons and has 4500 hp on tap horsing them around not only tweaks frames and breaks axles but running over a 2 1/2 service truck is not that uncommon(and not realizing you did it!). They have found that generally women drive more conservatively and the bottom line is better as there is less downtime(20,000$ an hour in lost revenue) and less maintenance cost(a tire cost 50,000). The tires are very sensitive to load, speed, and haul road conditions. A lot of mine had problems with men driving to fast loaded even though they were told not to.
The cabs have 2" steel floors ( or a plate below the cab) because several decades ago someone unfortunately found out that 1" was not thick enough to protect them from a tire blow out.
Standard required legalize.. The above statements are of my own opinion and not of my employer.
I thought Twinkle and Barbie saws were yours. Not get to keep either?
The Twinkle saw belonged to her employer. The Barbie saw is hers.
Twinkle is the gubmint saw and has been passed on to a young forester guy. Twinkle is still at work and running. I bought the Barbie saw, separately for me. At the time, the saw shop was having an unadvertised sale on 440s and both were reasonably priced. Twinkle rode around unprotected in the back of my work pickup day after day. That's a lot of bouncing around. Those are tough saws, me thinks.
Oh, on my last day of work, I covered Twinkle in Hello Kitty stickers.
Oh, on my last day of work, I covered Twinkle in Hello Kitty stickers.
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I must be a little thick tonight. I don't see what Preston posted that is so bad. He quoted what she typed? I guess I have no class either.
From her post - More pictures. Fat little old me bucking some alder out of a road. I enjoyed going out once in a while with the road crew after storms. My clothes are much too clean. That's Twinkle, the work saw I used.
Anybody hear from FLHX Storm yet?
From her post - More pictures. Fat little old me bucking some alder out of a road. I enjoyed going out once in a while with the road crew after storms. My clothes are much too clean. That's Twinkle, the work saw I used.
Anybody hear from FLHX Storm yet?
