I took out an old Oak that had been filled with concrete. It would have been nice to have had something in the contract to cover something like that. The guy of course didn't mention any concrete when he asked me to remove the tree.
Foriegn object charge??? Anyone have it?
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Davey Dog
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We have something similar written in our contract. I am not sure exactly how it works, but it covers any damage or injuries as a result of foreign material in trees.
I think its a good idea that should be common practice.
I think its a good idea that should be common practice.
clearance
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You win some, you lose some, thats the way she goes, suck it up and carry on.
One day a couple of years back, I was the apprentice on a utility crew cutting down a big old maple that had had many tree forts in it. All I did, for about three hours was sharpen two 372s and a 288, again and again. Sharpened one, hand it over, sharpen the next one... and so it went. Replaced a couple of chains, went through a few files, the tree was half nails.
One day a couple of years back, I was the apprentice on a utility crew cutting down a big old maple that had had many tree forts in it. All I did, for about three hours was sharpen two 372s and a 288, again and again. Sharpened one, hand it over, sharpen the next one... and so it went. Replaced a couple of chains, went through a few files, the tree was half nails.
Canyonbc
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Canyonbc
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i have been pretty lucky there.
When i walk through a job and give a bid...and see that, i ask if they day we work that the yard is clean of bombs.
Most 90+% have had no problem with picking up piles for us.
shrapnel
this one gave me almost heart attack, I was cutting down a pine next to some funny storage in the army base ( 8' brick walls, rounded corners and tiny roof, to " direct explosion up") never asked what was inside. hit this thing while finishing a backcut and ruined a chain. I had two ropes to hold this tree, so I managed to make another cut above (using different chaisaw).
this one gave me almost heart attack, I was cutting down a pine next to some funny storage in the army base ( 8' brick walls, rounded corners and tiny roof, to " direct explosion up") never asked what was inside. hit this thing while finishing a backcut and ruined a chain. I had two ropes to hold this tree, so I managed to make another cut above (using different chaisaw).
when i step in the chit i like to grab the ol grill brush off the grill and give my boots a scrub down.:hmm3grin2orange:
woodchuck361
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Thats funny I would rep you on that if it would let me.
I do have a dog poop clause in my contract... Under client responsibilites, I have a subheading "safe access to property", and I list examples including pet waste. I don't think it is too much to ask them to get that out of the work area. I haven run into it yet (or should I say I haven't stepped into it yet) If it is just on pile that I have to drag brush past, I'll put a pin flag next to it to make it easy to spot.
If there was a bunch, I'd knock on the door and ask them to get it cleaned up as we get ready to start work. Otherwise, I guess I'd bill them based on how long it took to clean it up...
If there was a bunch, I'd knock on the door and ask them to get it cleaned up as we get ready to start work. Otherwise, I guess I'd bill them based on how long it took to clean it up...
undercut
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destroyed chipper
A local company here had a metal wedge that the tree had grown around go through their big vermeer with the grapple. Did a ton of dammage. I am pretty sure it was covered under insurance. I don't have my chipper insured. Not sure if it is covered under liability. This topic has got me thinking. I figure if the customer is unaware of the crap in it then they should pay for any excessive destuction you incure, arguably half the labor. If they are aware and didn't inform you they should pay for parts and 100% of labor. A story for you. I went to grind a stump one time. The customer had a 2 foot by 2 foot peice of plywood nailed and screwed to the top. I asked if there was anything inside before i flush cut it since it was up a couple feet. She said they put it on to cover a hole so no one would get hurt. I figured i would cut it twice to take it down just to see inside before i go real low. I asked if it was empty or filled with dirt or anything to be safe (bad move). Of course she said it was empty. Well the sparks started to fly. I had to take the plywood off to find it filled to the brim with 4 to 5 inch round rocks. I made her pay for the hundred and fifteen dl chain. She actually felt bad. I was kicking myself later that day for not charging her more for labor. Moral of the story. If you have any way to check something raise the price and do it. Never trust a customer.
A local company here had a metal wedge that the tree had grown around go through their big vermeer with the grapple. Did a ton of dammage. I am pretty sure it was covered under insurance. I don't have my chipper insured. Not sure if it is covered under liability. This topic has got me thinking. I figure if the customer is unaware of the crap in it then they should pay for any excessive destuction you incure, arguably half the labor. If they are aware and didn't inform you they should pay for parts and 100% of labor. A story for you. I went to grind a stump one time. The customer had a 2 foot by 2 foot peice of plywood nailed and screwed to the top. I asked if there was anything inside before i flush cut it since it was up a couple feet. She said they put it on to cover a hole so no one would get hurt. I figured i would cut it twice to take it down just to see inside before i go real low. I asked if it was empty or filled with dirt or anything to be safe (bad move). Of course she said it was empty. Well the sparks started to fly. I had to take the plywood off to find it filled to the brim with 4 to 5 inch round rocks. I made her pay for the hundred and fifteen dl chain. She actually felt bad. I was kicking myself later that day for not charging her more for labor. Moral of the story. If you have any way to check something raise the price and do it. Never trust a customer.
I'm sorry but if you go to a stump with plywood on top and don't take the plywood off before you begin sawing, then I would say you were negligent and responsible for your own damage.
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