Frozen Ropes in the Tree...

[Nailsbeats]

How bout "dewy"?

It all reminds me of The Big Labowski when he meets Maude for the first time.

 

[Bomber]

Yeah, I was about to say that when yer dry rope freezes THAT would be a good indicator on whether it was to cold to work or not but I ain't never seen that happen. I was thinking that maybe it just doesn't get cold enough around here to freeze a dry rope. I was also thinking that maybe since the guy is around a few lakes that moisture was being broadcast in the air and collecting on his rope. Then the word moisture got me thinking how many women don't use that word very often - moist- they don't. I have actually had some women tell me they can't stand the word, hate it, think its vulgar. Moist. Moist? Yeah I guess I kinda understand but its a little bit of a stretch when you are talking about paper towels. So after I thought about that i started thinking of all the wack job women I have ever met and am happy my wife doesn't give a dam if I say ' moist' or not.

They like the word moist. They just might not like when you say it.

 

[Bomber]

I didnt have a problem with it slippying just sucks tying it frozen.. takes longer... just seems unsafe climbing with it frozen.

Its safe, just ask an ice climber

 

[tree md]

I have been keeping all of my ropes in bags for years which keeps them clean and dry. Never had a rope freeze on me yet... I did have a cheap cord that I use to haul my bow up and down to my tree stand freeze on me... It broke in half and dropped my bow about 10' out of a tree.

 

[CNBTreeTrimming]

If you take bowen and bull line and combine them it almost makes...bowline. Never worry bout my ropes freezing unless it's sleeting or freezing rain...my nuts on the other hand...well I take a lil more care not to let those freeze. Sometimes that's tough with KS wind blowing like it always does.

 

[treemandan]

I built one of those small ones and have used it in the tree with me a few times. I just hook it up with one of my nylon web slings girth hitched and clipped to it with a biner. It's fast for the smaller stuff, you know, the stuff you don't really need one for, lol.

Really though, I've caught a top on it a time or two in the tree instead of using a block. Used it a couple times to hang a neighboring tree to the one I was in while the ground man cut it off at the base and I lowered it down to him as he sectioned it off.

That's it Bubber. Its cool to cut and hold a whale. Even with small stuff its good to have friction so you don't burn yer hand. If I am wearing gloves its usually the rubber ones, you can use them for lowering but it wrecks the glove faster that normal.

Once I was talking a loaded line of the porty, I had planned to just let it run but I had a brand new pair of really gummy gloves. I meant to let go but the rope burnt into the glove and stuck. I went for fast little ascent. I just couldn't let go and after about 10 feet I stopped wanting to.

If I was wearing leather it would have been fine.

 

[tree md]

That's it Bubber. Its cool to cut and hold a whale. Even with small stuff its good to have friction so you don't burn yer hand. If I am wearing gloves its usually the rubber ones, you can use them for lowering but it wrecks the glove faster that normal.

Once I was talking a loaded line of the porty, I had planned to just let it run but I had a brand new pair of really gummy gloves. I meant to let go but the rope burnt into the glove and stuck. I went for fast little ascent. I just couldn't let go and after about 10 feet I stopped wanting to.

If I was wearing leather it would have been fine.

That's too funny. Reminds me of the time I was guiding a small top (around 500 #) as it came off and got my hand pinned underneath it when it came over... Hurt like hell but I was too embarrassed to let anyone on the ground know I was stuck. Took about 5 minutes to push the top with my legs so I could free my hand. Had a caribiner impression on the back of my hand for a week.

 

[capecodtree]

icy ropes

Rope bags, keep ropes out of snow, slush. Bring ropes in at night, spread out to dry. Choose your spot, a well used rope will smell! My first concern is are you using the proper climbing rope and climbing on an ANSI approved friction hitch? Taught line or blakes? Any moisture on a rope will freeze and make your line slick on a really cold day, but a properly tied friction hitch will keep you in control. PM me if you have any questions. Jim

 

[treemandan]

If you take bowen and bull line and combine them it almost makes...bowline. Never worry bout my ropes freezing unless it's sleeting or freezing rain...my nuts on the other hand...well I take a lil more care not to let those freeze. Sometimes that's tough with KS wind blowing like it always does.

You need to get one of those protectice cups with the little 9v heater built in. I think the worst part is trying to take a leak when its freezing out. I mean, the little guy is all froze up and shrunk under 16 buttoned and zippered layers. Its like trying to find a needle in a haystack... when you gotta piss so bad you can taste it. You are frantically trying to undo what it took all morning to put on while concentrating real hard on holding back the reigns, all you want is the pain to go way. Finally after getting everything open you realize the over-cooked rigatoni that your penis transmogrophied into won't clear the 6 inches of clothing you are wearing. So you are standing there with all of your shirts fronts in your mouth so you don't piss on them, pants down by your knees so you don't piss on them, you are leaning over at a 30 degree angle, one hand for support, the other directing the stream of urine that is coming out of your over - cooked rigatoni ,giving it all ya got and you hear a feminine voice " Oh there you are, I wanted to ask about my azaleas"

 

[climberjones]

Well that's an easy one... I always just break out my rope warmer when mine freezes up... I keep it right next to my rope stretcher.

I just wrap mine around a warm bottle of blinker fluid!:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Nailsbeats]

I am just wondering if this guy is using real tree rope, maybe not and there in lies the problem and a few more problems?

 

[imagineero]

I built one of those small ones and have used it in the tree with me a few times. I just hook it up with one of my nylon web slings girth hitched and clipped to it with a biner. It's fast for the smaller stuff, you know, the stuff you don't really need one for, lol.

Really though, I've caught a top on it a time or two in the tree instead of using a block. Used it a couple times to hang a neighboring tree to the one I was in while the ground man cut it off at the base and I lowered it down to him as he sectioned it off.

I've used a grigri in similar situations. You cant take tops out with it, but it's great for branches and frees up both hands. It works well for double rigged situations, say, if you're way out in a neighbours yard over a glass house and have your primary line rigged in the home owners yard, maybe off another tree. But you cant let it swing because the drop will be too big and it will ground out on the glass house. I rig a second line off the branch I'm working and un it off the gri gri with the main line also on the branch. Cut and drop, then lower off the gri gir and the main line takes in. Get to ground and the groundies tie the main line back onto my secondary, repeat as necessary.

Shaun

 

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

I am just wondering if this guy is using real tree rope, maybe not and there in lies the problem and a few more problems?

Just cause you wanna be a 8===D About it... its BlackMax Bull Rope... look it up on baileysonline.com... No Im npt certified. But I can cut like anyone else using older techniques... I fully understand how all the gear is used but Ive never needed to by extra gear when what I have and already know kept me in business and the 3 tree services that have seen me climb were impressed. So keep trying to talk down. How often do you have run a 395xp in a tree? Im just sick of the over head. I got a family that i wanna spend more time with. I know the gear but I posted because my ropes froze 50ft in the air when thry hung by a woodstove all night. Was probably mositure from my floor board now that i think of it. Thanks for any postive input anyone has. Couple good ideas.

 

[Goober]

I got a family that i wanna spend more time with.

What a tool. You'll be spending a lot of time with them as they're feeding you thru a straw as you lay incapacitated from an fall, as you are too cheap to buy proper gear.

 

[Hddnis]

I've climbed in a lot of snow and ice and never had a problem till just the other day. My rope kept freezing to the tree. I kept having to pull myself up a little and drop into my rope to get it free so I could reposition. Rope was plenty dry starting the day. I think it was because I was climbing a snow covered tree in freezing rain. Also might be because I was using an older climbing line that is nearing retirement. Either way it was frustrating.



Mr. HE

 

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

I know of at least 10 other climbers in this area that use the same gear and knots I do and have been in business 35 + years. The friction knot I use can be used with or without gaffs... I have a buckingham belt and gaffs. Clearly I wouldnt be in the business if I didnt know how to cut and rig. Just cause I didnt go to college for it doesnt mean I havent researched proper techniques, tree dieases, srt and drt setups. Been highly recommended over the last 4 years not to mention i built my uncles name befor I turned 21 and could even get the insurance. I known people that have died cutting trees that have gone to college and used all the proper gear. This is the risk we all when in the tree service business. Takes one time and your disabled or dead. Love how this went from how to keep ropes from freezing on the job to bashing me cause i dont use a grigir and a acsender...

 

[dts99]

Yeah, I was about to say that when yer dry rope freezes THAT would be a good indicator on whether it was to cold to work or not but I ain't never seen that happen. I was thinking that maybe it just doesn't get cold enough around here to freeze a dry rope. I was also thinking that maybe since the guy is around a few lakes that moisture was being broadcast in the air and collecting on his rope. Then the word moisture got me thinking how many women don't use that word very often - moist- they don't. I have actually had some women tell me they can't stand the word, hate it, think its vulgar. Moist. Moist? Yeah I guess I kinda understand but its a little bit of a stretch when you are talking about paper towels. So after I thought about that i started thinking of all the wack job women I have ever met and am happy my wife doesn't give a dam if I say ' moist' or not.

my wife makes me say things are watery instead:taped:

 

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

I've climbed in a lot of snow and ice and never had a problem till just the other day. My rope kept freezing to the tree. I kept having to pull myself up a little and drop into my rope to get it free so I could reposition. Rope was plenty dry starting the day. I think it was because I was climbing a snow covered tree in freezing rain. Also might be because I was using an older climbing line that is nearing retirement. Either way it was frustrating.



Mr. HE

Exactly what i had to do.. it sucks. Was in a white pine covered in sap ontop of it being 19 degrees with a wind chill factor of who knows what up in the air.

 

[Tree Pig]

Just cause you wanna be a 8===D About it... its BlackMax Bull Rope... look it up on baileysonline.com... No Im npt certified. But I can cut like anyone else using older techniques... I fully understand how all the gear is used but Ive never needed to by extra gear when what I have and already know kept me in business and the 3 tree services that have seen me climb were impressed. So keep trying to talk down. How often do you have run a 395xp in a tree? Im just sick of the over head. I got a family that i wanna spend more time with. I know the gear but I posted because my ropes froze 50ft in the air when thry hung by a woodstove all night. Was probably mositure from my floor board now that i think of it. Thanks for any postive input anyone has. Couple good ideas.

dude dont be offended by peoples hesitation take you serous. You may be a great tree climber but your post and terms were kind of off kilter a little. Even the frozen rope thing was a little weird there are plenty of full time tree guys that work in far colder weather then you and I, that never heard of such a thing (if they use good gear and care for it properly). There are tons of people that come in here and have never seen the top side of a tree while it was still standing. Many of them come in asking wacky questions and use made up terminology to sound like they know what they are talking about. But they are weeded out quick. You have to understand that you came in here with an off the wall question and referred to pretty standard knots or friction hitches in a unusual way so to many here alarm bells go off. In your case I am going to guess you were self taught or maybe learned from a real old school climber who had his own jargon for tree talk. No one in here would knock you for climbing on a toughline friction hitch (most everyone has) or for tying a bowline (we all do) definitely not for using 3/4" bull line (I only own up to 5/8) But where you ran in to problems was climbing on a slip knot while tying a bowen to your 1/4" bull line. You have to understand the mental image you provided was really of someone who was talking out of their ass.

Stick around once you get to know us you will really hate us... but you can learn a lot and prolly offer a lot too.

PS I my self have never cut with a 395 in a tree...



but thats only because Huskys suck ass.

 

[superjunior]

Love how this went from how to keep ropes from freezing on the job to bashing me cause i dont use a grigir and a acsender...

The boys are just rufflin yer feathers man. Gotta have some thick skin around here or they'll have you bent over and be lining up to take turns on ya..

Rope bags are the way to go. And l like to put my gear on the floor of the truck with the heat blasting on the way to a job. Haven't had a rope freeze on me yet