Yep, those are my neighbors, those boys live in the park just up the road.
Frozen Saws
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Canyon Angler
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Not sure what you're arguing.
"Ethanol" = "Ethyl alcohol" = "grain alcohol" = the alcohol in booze.
"Methanol" = "methyl alcohol" = "methyl hydrate" = "wood alcohol."
"Isopropanol" = "isopropyl alcohol" = "rubbing alcohol."
They're just different words referring to the same things, like "Chevy" = "Chevrolet."
While the are the same things, such as they are all types of alcohol (like a Cadillac is made by Chevy) they have different properties. You can drink ethanol and get drunk. You can drink the same amount of methanol and get drunk, go blind, and kill your liver.
Canyon Angler
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Oh, I get it.
So, like,
milk and water and Clorox and anti-freeze and Pepsi and mercury and battery acid are all liquids
but just because they're all liquids doesn't mean you should drink them all.
Who knew???
Thanks for the heads-up! This should be a public service announcement!
Not arguing, you give very good info. I was just putting other info out: people seemed to be interested in the difference between methyl hydrate and isopropyl alcohol. I apologize if it seemed like I was arguing. Perhaps I should have started a new comment.
GenXer
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That 6 pack is usually about 5 bucks plus hst.
Throw in a carb kit and fuel line/ filter while your at it. You will need it.
Have no other reason to go to a crowded CDN Tire store. The nearest one to where we live is 1.5 hr. round trip. I have the methyl hydrate already in a larger container. I can measure the 150 ml/5 gal or 30 ml / gal. I have also noticed six packs of the stuff at an Irving gas station about 20 minutes away.
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...w7682YQMe8aAsfHEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#store=54
I'll probably mix it light and only if my carb starts freezing up again. It never happened to me before - in 45 years of running saws.
There's 2 kinds the red bottle and the yellow one. I read that one is good to use the other isn't
In Canada if you see the green stickers on the pumps it contains ethanol any of the ones that say good for the enviorment the same. thing.Mohawk and I cannot think of the others have been full of ethanol for years .Shell premium is 100 percent gas.
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newforest
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Dem boys from da pahk look to be in da big city in that picture. Movin’ on up?
I had to put my saw in the truck this morning, it’s a little older and tired and hard-to-cranky in the cold a.m. 5 minutes near the footwell heater on full and it was sweet sweet summer time again. I should be nicer to it and just ride it indoors with me I guess; I always forget till a morning start like this one. Sorry, saw. No more cold rain & snow for you now. My clothes all smell like saw gas already anyway, dang temp inversions this time of year, cutting under thick pine all the time the air even starts looking blue.
I had to put my saw in the truck this morning, it’s a little older and tired and hard-to-cranky in the cold a.m. 5 minutes near the footwell heater on full and it was sweet sweet summer time again. I should be nicer to it and just ride it indoors with me I guess; I always forget till a morning start like this one. Sorry, saw. No more cold rain & snow for you now. My clothes all smell like saw gas already anyway, dang temp inversions this time of year, cutting under thick pine all the time the air even starts looking blue.
Just looked it up: in NS, PEI and Newfoundland & Labrador, all gasoline contains no ethanol. I won't be be giving my saws a double-dose of alcohol in my fuel if I I end up using a little bit of methanol on a frozen saw. Thanks everyone, I learned some things here.
I worked with a guy that had sub duty in WWII. He and his buddies drained a portion of the alcohol out of each torpedo and drank it. Talk about slow on the draw. He'll be dead a half hour before he knows it. Talk about dain bramage."methyl hydrate" LOL the authorities are prolly afraid if they call it "wood alcohol" they'll get
GenXer
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I know most of the stations around me in NB are ethanol free, I'm not sure if Irving still has it in their gas.
Iffykid
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My saws always rode in the cab with me in the winter along with the summer weight bar oil.
Canyon Angler
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Yep, "torpedo juice" ... aka grain alcohol ... I remember (kinda) a party where they made punch with that stuff...
Irving's St. John, New Brunswick refinery is the largest oil refinery in all of Canada.
They don't list ethanol as part of the products out of that refinery.
I think they supply most of the gasoline throughout the Maritimes.
After the two big tanker car derailments/explosions (QUE & MB), Irving has gotten its crude from Saudi Arabia.
Irving Oil accounts for 1.5% of the Saudi's crude market.
75% of the products coming from the Irving refinery are sold in the USA through a partnership with Standard Oil of California.
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I think that you need to separate fuel icing issues from plain old carburetor icing due to high humidity and outside temperatures near or below freezing. The fact that they ran for 3 minutes before stopping seems to indicate regular carburetor icing and not fuel line freezing. I don't think that methyl hydrate (methanol) will do anything for carburetor icing.
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