gas too diesel ?

[smokin_dodge]

sorry to keep adding but....

IMHO if they make a vehicle that dependable and reliable, wouldnt you think we would be able to acquire such vehicles? well no, thanks to our great government represenatitives who have ties to the automotive and oil industry's would rather sell you an inferior designed vehicle with a gasoline engine maybe getting 150k miles so you keep having to come back and buy more. the other part that is killing us is the epa restrictions on diesels because they are "dirty". well im sure all of you know black smoke is nothing more than unburned fuel - in lamens turns hydrocarbons and soot. now im no environmental scientist but im pretty sure that some soot and hydrocarbons are no where near as bad as all the CO and CO3 that gasoline engines burn off, mainly due to the "additives" put in the gasoline to help it burn better.

so in summation, diesel is far superior to gasoline in the large scale (meaning we should drive diesel cars, and stick to gasoline saws, mowers, small engines etc.)

 

[gr8scott72]

a guy i work for has a 13hp diesel kubota, little 3cylinder naturally aspirated.
im pretty sure its a B5200

i can idle it around all day and barely burn a gallon it seems, but at the same time, tow around a 2500lb trailer full of limbs and logs and its like it wasnt even attached.

personally i believe that diesel is far superior than gasoline, from the fact that is has more potential energy than gasoline, to the fact that the engines have no electrical parts to fail (if you get a mechanical engine) and that the average diesel engine has 2-3 times the lifespan of a gasoline engine.

now yes, diesel is getting expensive but ill put it into terms everyone can relate to these days - in texas diesel is actually $0.10 cents cheaper than diesel - but i drive a 2004 ram 2500 with a cummins, with minor modifications (intake and exhaust, smarty) i get roughly 23mpg @65 mph, now thats a 8000lb truck with maybe 450 HP.

now your average suburban mom has a 5.7L v8, and sits at roughly 4000lbs and is getting most likely 13-17 mpg (17 at the optimum).

now with .2L more in my engine and twice the weight, the fact that im getting better mileage with all the added weight should be a hinderance but its not. makes you wonder why all the cars on the road arnt diesel, go 500 miles on 10 gallons.

so thats my little soapbox, diesel is far superior, and while they did catch a lot of flack in the past with our modern engineering capabilities we are capable of designing and making extremely powerful and efficient engines in compact form, thus diesel superiority.

did you know, that the most efficient engine is a 2-stroke diesel engine used in freight liners that makes in the neighborhood of 40% efficiency?

I agree with what you are saying, but a Suburban is 5,500 - 5,800 pounds. I also think your truck isn't quite 8,000 lbs unless you carry 1,000 lbs around all the time. (Dodge site lists the 2500 long bed, 4x4, quad cab with a diesel at7,064 lbs.)

 

[motoroilmccall]

Good post Smokin, but with just the Smarty you ain't making 450HP, even with an intake and exhaust. 400HP-425HP maybe. Even on Level 9 you ain't quite to that power (450HP), you need an Airdog or FASS to get there, otherwise you'll run the pump low on fuel pressure, and it detunes naturally.

The Hilux is nice, but I'll take a Jeep with a 4BT in it all day over that Yota. At least then you get real axles...