good cc fo forestry in OR

[056kid]

I was looking at attending cocc in Bend. For a 2 year forestry deal.

Anybody know of or about this school? good? bad?

 

[forestryworks]

i was lookin' at goin' there for awhile.

but bend is a VERY expensive city.

look at mount hood comm. college - it's in a better timber area.

 

[Spotted Owl]

You might call OSU. Explain to them that you cannot attend their forestry school right now, and are wondering how they think COCC ranks in the forestry dept. Ask how they think that COCC would be as to getting ready to attend their forestry dept.

You might also call some of the bigger logging companies in the area over their and ask their opinion some of the bigger places also run their own small farms. Ya, Ya, I know loggers and foresters, but it may be worth a shot. If you can get a hold of a couple timber companies over their that may be worth a stab also, some place like Interfor out of Gilcrest I think they took over for Crown Pacific down there. They may have some insight aswell.

Call COCC themselves and ask for the names of some graduates. Ask the graduates what they think about the program and how it ranks to the real world.


Just my thoughts


Owl

 

[slowp]

Just keep in mind that if the school is any good, you need to have pretty good math skills. A lot of guys in my class (this was during the ice age) didn't realize that and flunked out quickly--in fact dropped like flies. I just got hives.....

 

[forestryworks]

Just keep in mind that if the school is any good, you need to have pretty good math skills. A lot of guys in my class (this was during the ice age) didn't realize that and flunked out quickly--in fact dropped like flies. I just got hives.....

i suck at math. have failed college algebra three times.

i guess i'm doomed.

 

[CollegeLogger]

Yea it seems to most that i know that forestry involves higher math was un-known to most when entering college for forestry, including myself. I'm in forest biometry right now and still have yet to take my pre-calc course, all i would say is study hard and hope for a good teacher. Also if at all possible would be talk to some students that are already in the school and see what they think about the whole deal, straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

 

[PB]

http://www.forest.umaine.edu/

 

[slowp]

i suck at math. have failed college algebra three times.

i guess i'm doomed.

Nope. I only took the minimum in high school. I was told by the counselors not to take any math cuz I was dumb. I went to a CC, dropped algebra the first time, repeated it in another class, squeaked by but that grade bothered me. I got my AAA degree, then had a hard time deciding if I really wanted to work for the govt. So I missed getting some jobs. Decided I might go to a 4 year, went back and took algebra yet again, and something in my brain had changed and it was easy. Maybe working with math in the woods? I aced it.
Tutors help. Just take it seriously and, my problem was I tried to make sense of it. Just don't think about it too much--believe the book. It was factoring that I had a hard time with, and I can't remember how anymore.

Heck, when I took it, calculators were a new thing. Computers were on Star Trek. Neanderthal times back then.

 

[Burvol]

i suck at math. have failed college algebra three times.

i guess i'm doomed.

Sweet, then just come out West and start pulling riggin' instead! There's a few places around me for rent or sale, good fishing and some highlead jobs starting if the price of wood ever comes back to life this year.

 

[forestryworks]

Sweet, then just come out West and start pulling riggin' instead! There's a few places around me for rent or sale, good fishing and some highlead jobs starting if the price of wood ever comes back to life this year.

that sounds good. but i'm stuck here and on this job 'til august.

we'll see what happens then.

 

[rdbrumfield]

I use math all the time in construction. I too have a brain block when it comes to algebra. It just makes no sense to me.
I have tried to figure it and it just does not click. Oh well, long as I can convert 12ths to 10ths and back in my head I guess that will have to do. Keep it simple is the best way, like using an axe handle or stick to know how tall a tree is.

 

[slinger]

I was looking at attending cocc in Bend. For a 2 year forestry deal.

Anybody know of or about this school? good? bad?

Don't know much about that CC but I would suggest that you continue your education there or elsewhere. Plenty of folks in the industry 'down turn' wish they had the 'piece of paper'.

The math requirement should not be too hard to meet in a career and technical program at a CC. One of the benefits of attending a CC is the industry contacts you make, especially if there are internships available.

Many CC's also articulate with 4 year universities like OSU so your CC classes AND internship hours transfer. Ask about that while investigating...

Good luck!

 

[056kid]

I had considerd blue mountain cc and then EOU. but i think that i would do better at cocc with forestry right off the bat. then try and go to OSU, it depends how I take to it. I am ready to give it a try though if not then I can just go cut more timber!!

 

[sILlogger]

Sweet, then just come out West and start pulling riggin' instead! There's a few places around me for rent or sale, good fishing and some highlead jobs starting if the price of wood ever comes back to life this year.

hey. can i come cut trees out there?!?? just joking. i'm guessing with the the downturn in logging there are plenty of good fallers that are waiting for work to open up. I'm sure that is not a good time for a "new guy"

 

[forestryworks]

I had considerd blue mountain cc and then EOU. but i think that i would do better at cocc with forestry right off the bat. then try and go to OSU, it depends how I take to it. I am ready to give it a try though if not then I can just go cut more timber!!

wherever you go make sure your school and degree is accredited or recognized by the society of american foresters (SAF). i've seen some job listings that state a degree and also state that the degree must be SAF accredited or recognized.

 

[slowp]

wherever you go make sure your school and degree is accredited or recognized by the society of american foresters (SAF). i've seen some job listings that state a degree and also state that the degree must be SAF accredited or recognized.

Yeah, the one I went to was, but it didn't matter back then. I still will try to talk you into going back and taking the basics in math and getting help from a tutor. The best algebra teacher I had was a basketball coach who had a hard time learning algebra but managed to do it so he knew how to explain it to us dummies. He'd been one too.

If it is all similar to what we had, you have to take a class in land surveying, mensuration (cruising) statistics and the one that gave me hives, Aerial photos. The latter has you having to figure out such things as measuring trees off aerial photos using the shadows. Stuff I immediately forgot how to do. Now there's probably a GIS program to do that.

But, then I actually got to take a quickie forest engineering course at the Oregon OSU and that was good. It too had some stuff that you might only do to impress or not impress someone, like calculating the tension of a guyline by the sound of a hammer banging on it...they admitted it was useless but fun for engineering nerds to do. We visited logging operations and then laid out and did a little logging until the intermediate supports pulled their guylines and went over...then it was class over.:blush:

 

[sILlogger]

Yeah, the one I went to was, but it didn't matter back then. I still will try to talk you into going back and taking the basics in math and getting help from a tutor. The best algebra teacher I had was a basketball coach who had a hard time learning algebra but managed to do it so he knew how to explain it to us dummies. He'd been one too.

If it is all similar to what we had, you have to take a class in land surveying, mensuration (cruising) statistics and the one that gave me hives, Aerial photos. The latter has you having to figure out such things as measuring trees off aerial photos using the shadows. Stuff I immediately forgot how to do. Now there's probably a GIS program to do that.

But, then I actually got to take a quickie forest engineering course at the Oregon OSU and that was good. It too had some stuff that you might only do to impress or not impress someone, like calculating the tension of a guyline by the sound of a hammer banging on it...they admitted it was useless but fun for engineering nerds to do. We visited logging operations and then laid out and did a little logging until the intermediate supports pulled their guylines and went over...then it was class over.:blush:

what forestry education would be usefull in the day to day operations of a forest service employee dealing with logging operations in your area.

i'm about to finish up my bachelors in forest resource management (SAF accredited) and was thinking of a masters in forest engineering.

 

[PB]

what forestry education would be usefull in the day to day operations of a forest service employee dealing with logging operations in your area.

i'm about to finish up my bachelors in forest resource management (SAF accredited) and was thinking of a masters in forest engineering.

Come to UMaine!!! We could drink beer, cut #### up and drink more beer!

 

[sILlogger]

Come to UMaine!!! We could drink beer, cut #### up and drink more beer!

what forestry specializations do they have? and could i do any logging when im not in school?

 

[forestryworks]

Yeah, the one I went to was, but it didn't matter back then. I still will try to talk you into going back and taking the basics in math and getting help from a tutor. The best algebra teacher I had was a basketball coach who had a hard time learning algebra but managed to do it so he knew how to explain it to us dummies. He'd been one too.

If it is all similar to what we had, you have to take a class in land surveying, mensuration (cruising) statistics and the one that gave me hives, Aerial photos. The latter has you having to figure out such things as measuring trees off aerial photos using the shadows. Stuff I immediately forgot how to do. Now there's probably a GIS program to do that.

But, then I actually got to take a quickie forest engineering course at the Oregon OSU and that was good. It too had some stuff that you might only do to impress or not impress someone, like calculating the tension of a guyline by the sound of a hammer banging on it...they admitted it was useless but fun for engineering nerds to do. We visited logging operations and then laid out and did a little logging until the intermediate supports pulled their guylines and went over...then it was class over.:blush:

part of the problem was i was only able to take a night class in algebra, because of work. and that class was once a week on thursday nights - 6 - 9pm. 3 HOURS. i fell asleep to many times. i'm usually in bed by 8:30 - 9:30.