Got a laugh from sherrill tree felling bar

[teamtree]

I designed a felling bar some time ago with the intention of selling them etc, worked a little different than the conventional bars....but it ended up so big and HEAVY that that the cost of the shipping would have been more than the bar was worth. (see Attachments)

My previous experience as an accountant in the manufacturing world....that yellow felling bar would have to sell for about $250 before you would see any profit. And it would not do as much as a sledge and wedge in the woods...ask any timber cutter...they would probably laugh. One design suggestion/comment...too many welds.

One question....as you apply pressure does it have a locking mechanism? Say I get it up about 3" but a gust of wind comes long...do you have to hold it or does someone have to shove wedges in as you pry?

Now the felling bar that sherrill sells...I have had plenty of guys laugh and some ask me where i got it....

but after cutting a 60" stump and you have about 2" gap in your cuts this bar will pop it off pretty easily but maybe I put a little more into than most.

 

[Rftreeman]

Don't be so upset, I ordered the LINE TAMER years ago...

same here, I use it to pull old line off my fishing reels now since that's what it was designed to really do, it is even made by Berkley, they make fishing stuff

as for that felling bar, that must be mini-me using it in the catalog.

 

[Slvrmple72]

tools fall into 3 categories
1.tools that you need
2.tools that you think you need
3.tools that you absolutely had to have and now sit around unused

I have found that I can do more with my chainsaw, a longer bar when needed, a couple of bottle jacks, wedges and sledges. Its funny, I bought a new 460 this year and got two bars: 18" and 28". I have yet to use the 18" bar.

 

[Slvrmple72]

I am still looking forward to purchasing a " The Dan Says " t-shirt! When do they go on sale? I will take mine XL in gunmetal with a front pocket.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Sign me up too.

I'm an xxlong.

 

[Adkpk]

Don't be so upset, I ordered the LINE TAMER years ago...

here is a partial list of places where The Dan is permanately banned from
Sherril tree
Staples
Enterprise rent a car
Genaurdis
Saunders Automotive Despair- See you in court idiot.

And that is just recently.

All because the junk they were trying to peddle to me was junk... and they tried to charge me for it.
So , you see, getting banned from this place is just protocol.

Oh ya, got me one of those list and for the same reason.

 

[Reg]

My previous experience as an accountant in the manufacturing world....that yellow felling bar would have to sell for about $250 before you would see any profit. And it would not do as much as a sledge and wedge in the woods...ask any timber cutter...they would probably laugh. One design suggestion/comment...too many welds.

One question....as you apply pressure does it have a locking mechanism? Say I get it up about 3" but a gust of wind comes long...do you have to hold it or does someone have to shove wedges in as you pry?

Ive yet to see a bar that has a locking mechanism of any kind that you can just apply at a given moment. However, notice the short lever that runs horizontal to the bar....well by the time you get the bar to horizontal, if the tree hasn't gone already then you just pull on the lever which then slots a revolving pin into the kerf which does hold the tree in position; then you stand the lever back up and the pin further opens the kerf to complete the fall! Do you follow? Is that so laughable

One design suggestion/comment...too many welds.

How so?

 

[treemandan]

I designed a felling bar some time ago with the intention of selling them etc, worked a little different than the conventional bars....but it ended up so big and HEAVY that that the cost of the shipping would have been more than the bar was worth. (see Attachments)

yeah, really hot, I would like to get up on that all night! ooops wrong forum but the right thoughts.
Torque over leverage has more power and puts the cutter in the right spot for exiting the zone.
After hauling a Hobbs and the like that thing is nothing. Your mistake? Showing me.
Naw, I won't make one, I still put ropes in em but that thing does look like its sure means business.
I will think about using Mcpherson's tip with the wonderbar instead of using bark next time too. Actually if The Dan gets his bonus he might get one of those conical ratcheting type deals for around 200+. The 2 foot bar seems like a nice deal to.
There is a difference between things like a small cant hook and a big peavy for sure.

 

[treemandan]

same here, I use it to pull old line off my fishing reels now since that's what it was designed to really do, it is even made by Berkley, they make fishing stuff

as for that felling bar, that must be mini-me using it in the catalog.

I have never really fished. I didn't know it was for fishing line until I saw it it said it was on the package when it came in the mail. It said" Spools throwball line." It didn't... end of story.
I guess the reason i could never fish was it took to long for something to happen. I like things to happen quicky- the fishing pole didn't work ( probably defective) and I saw a bunch of fish so I jumped in to get one. I did...end of story.
I bet that thing works great on fishing line cept I get it tangled up anyway.

 

[teamtree]

REG....to answer your question....I guess I would have to see the thing in action to see the benefits.


How so? To build that product in sufficient quantities to take to the market place you would have to administer testing on the product to give the product working limits. Each point of a weld is a possible breaking point. Each breaking point is a possible lawsuit. To get product insurance you will have to have the product tested and retested. It would seem you may be able to streamline the manufacturing process and redesign the product with less welds. Not to mention the manufacturing costs of such a product. But these are just my opinions gained from experience. It is your product, and if it is perfect then take it to market.

 

[Reg]

REG....to answer your question....I guess I would have to see the thing in action to see the benefits.


How so? To build that product in sufficient quantities to take to the market place you would have to administer testing on the product to give the product working limits. Each point of a weld is a possible breaking point. Each breaking point is a possible lawsuit. To get product insurance you will have to have the product tested and retested. It would seem you may be able to streamline the manufacturing process and redesign the product with less welds. Not to mention the manufacturing costs of such a product. But these are just my opinions gained from experience. It is your product, and if it is perfect then take it to market.

Thanks

And FWIW, I'd been through all the legalities that you refer to, this wasn't just something I'd knocked together in the shed. My point was that bars can be really useful but I went off on a tangent with mine and did the right thing by scrapping the idea before it cost me any more money.

Incidently, I did manage to bring a similar bar to the market, but it was light and easy to use aloft. No substitute for a couple of guys on a pull rope of course but still pretty useble now and then....easy one for the DIY fabricators out there also. Flick to about 5:40 on this vid and you'll see it work a couple of times, sorry about the soundtrack! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CXwJcCTLdc

 

[teamtree]

Reg...did not mean to sound like I was putting your deal down....

I am a gadget man and I would like to have one of those bars...even if it is just for conversation.

If the other tool is what I think it is...I have seen your vids on youtube...awesome work and very clever.

 

[testlight]

Yeah, sometimes I have the internet. Walking into the store and checking out something before you buy it, that's a beautiful thing. Of corse with the money saved on online sales a lemon here and there is OK.

 

[Reg]

Reg...did not mean to sound like I was putting your deal down....

was never in doubt my friend,

and opinion's/observation's, whether favourable or otherwise are always taken on board. He who listens....